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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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uh i'm so happy to be here with you

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tonight uh

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i had a time today where i was thinking

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all the people uh when i started this

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new channel

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other show hosts other content creators

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other podcasters

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who recognized me starting a new channel

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on how difficult

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of course that would be and gave me a

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shout out or a little bit of help

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to get some people

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listening and watching and so i felt

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like yeah

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maybe i have a karmic debt and i can

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help some other people

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as well for those who don't know

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terry joyce uh has a a

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really fun channel

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and just rebooted her channel

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not my rabbit hole uh which if you enjoy

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the kind of content that you get here

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hers is different but

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interesting and i think that you would

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and i was thinking about her starting

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her new channel and what

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incredible uh interviews and other stuff

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that i have seen her do in the past and

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i wanted to

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see if we could do two things tonight

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one is to try to help her

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to grow her brand new recently rebooted

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and by the way if you go down into the

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video description her new channel

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address is there

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so you can jump over there and subscribe

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i would truly appreciate it and i think

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that you would enjoy her content tonight

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we're going to be sharing something that

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i uh almost forgot about

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but there is a portion of this interview

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this tonight we're going to be sharing

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an interview

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and discussing it that terry joyce did

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with kevin moore

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and but the great part of this interview

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is that kevin moore

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shares a a taped

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and in that conversation he kind of

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confronts carrie cassidy about why is

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she using a convicted murderer as a

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source for the secret space program

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for those unaware carrie cassidy loves

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criminals all her sources about all her

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well i shouldn't say all but many of her

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sources about her fake alien stories

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are criminals let's see she's used a

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child molester she's used

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program maybe that was before he went to

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and carrie cassidy who never heard a

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story about aliens that was too

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fantastical

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this guy mark richards as a source

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for years now claiming that he has some

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even though he's behind bars and in

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this is awesome because uh kevin moore

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you know he interviewed some

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questionable people too

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however uh you know i like kevin moore

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i've kind of lost my objectivity i

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that's my personal opinion he's free to

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and so yeah kevin moore and i disagree

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would consider he and i friendly you

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opportunity to sort of go hey kevin come

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uh confronting of carrie cassidy on the

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that our audience would like to hear

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from kevin moore i'm sure of it

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um but you know he's a very busy guy

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he's been working on a documentary about

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and mark richards who's been behind bars

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orchestrated and masterminded and

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been behind bars for 35 years how does

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or is he just sitting around in prison

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making up stories

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and trying to find gullible stupid

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people to listen to him

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there's just there's no credibility to

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really come on bro is that how

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fantastical we've gotten

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is that the level of like proof and

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listen to kerry cassidy have

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do they just want fairy tales you know

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lately the more that i

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observe this crazy thing in conspiracy

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and observe so-called researchers

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uh after all we just caught carrie

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someone in the

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ufo community recently all the things

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factually inaccurate and incorrect

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all of it and we caught her red-handed

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does she take that down no her and

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the other source of that fake

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information robert morningstar

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are now disparaging me calling me

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you know because i made some phone calls

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and told people the truth

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right yeah and by the way i always say

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if i'm a cia disinformation agent they

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keep forgetting to give me the paycheck

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i haven't gotten the paycheck right oh

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uh speaking of paychecks i want to make

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karen rocha is here uh you are most

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here karen and with a fine and generous

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donation of i think that's five dollars

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canadian and says happy birthday again

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stephen thank you very much my birthday

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was yesterday

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had an amazing birthday had an amazing

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time really just quiet night at home

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philadelphia cheesecake which

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favorite dessert for sure is

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philadelphia cheesecake there's no other

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cheesecake like it

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yeah so and uh if anybody else would

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like to support me there's a little

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is in the video description uh and thank

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you very much karen for your kindness

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your generosity and your support this is

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uh but thank you karen for your kindness

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and your generosity and your support we

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really do appreciate it

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it really does help us to keep the show

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keep the ball rolling right and uh i

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i always use this analogy i used to feel

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like when the show when i started this

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show i felt like i was trying to push a

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boulder up a hill by myself

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right and now i feel like i've got all

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these people that are not only helping

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but helping me gain momentum and slam it

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really feeling empowered and uh and

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and grateful and uh for all the help and

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assistance that people have been to keep

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the show going

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so back to uh miss cassidy is now

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calling me a cia disinformation agent or

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i'm a deep state asset i don't even know

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what that means

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i'm an asset of the deep state i'm at or

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did she mean

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asshat am i an asshat of the deep state

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carrie cassidy

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or am i just a guy uh with some

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curiosity and a phone

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and i made some phone calls and proved

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that you were telling lies on your blog

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and telling lies in your video boldface

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made up completely made up fake facts

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but why should anybody expect otherwise

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from this

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woman after all you know she's got

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incredibly great sources like court

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martial child molesters

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telling alien stories about mars

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convicted murderers telling stories

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about him being

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in the secret space program and saving

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planet earth you know from the alien

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oh and who's who's another one of her

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sean david morton who is a convicted

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and embezzler and stole money from all

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investment scam with him

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he's doing time in federal prison or is

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he out now carrie cassidy

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i think he's out now you know but he did

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a few years

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in federal prison for a fraud these are

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the quality

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of carrie cassidy sources

295
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kerry you can't trust a court-martial

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child molester

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okay you can't and he can't trust a

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convicted murderer when he starts

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telling you fantastical stories

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about being saving earth from the aliens

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gary i think you've been in this too

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long and i think you need an alien detox

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right

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somebody needs to sit you down and make

305
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you watch real news

306
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right and i don't care which news but

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come on carrie

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you've got to get out of conspiracy

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wacko [\h__\h] and

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stop accepting anybody telling you

311
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stories about aliens as being real right

312
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so again one of the other purposes of

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tonight for sure is to try to help

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my friend terry joyce uh you may have

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seen her on the first

316
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uh the first season of oh god i always

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forget the name of it

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it's like the comedy show it's like the

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last comic standing

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you may have seen her she was on the

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first season of the latest comic

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standing you know with ralphie may

323
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ralphie mae is one of my favorite

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comedians and uh

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yeah so uh she started a new channel

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called not my rabbit hole

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and the channel link is in the

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description but i wanted to share some

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of her previous work tonight

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okay you know i didn't ask her

331
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so we're still going to uh we're still

332
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going to put up our fair use batter this

333
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is fair use this is a transformative

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work

335
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uh we will be uh educating the public

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about carrie cassidy

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and mark richards the convicted murderer

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who's been in jail for 35 years secret

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space

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astronaut that she talks to uh we'll be

341
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uh discussing this video and educating

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the public on these things so this

343
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i gotta tell you the the interview is

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good but my favorite part

345
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is when uh kevin moore shares this phone

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call

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between him and carrie cassidy and some

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of you may remember

349
00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:04,959
that we did a whole show on carrie

350
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cassidy arguing

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with uh dr steven greer

352
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this is better this is even better than

353
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that it is gold

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friends you're gonna love it we're gonna

355
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be stopping the video every once in a

356
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while to comment and uh

357
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talk about what's being discussed um

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yeah

359
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oh this is going to be fun so and i hope

360
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my friend terry joyce doesn't mind me

361
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just borrowing this

362
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but uh we're it's better to beg

363
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forgiveness than to ask permission

364
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and by the way if she's listening i'll

365
00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:38,639
send her the link she can come on later

366
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if she wants to talk about this

367
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interview and her new channel or

368
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whatever

369
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uh but if not it's okay i just thought

370
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that if i could uh try to

371
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help uh terry with the new channel she

372
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just started i would be happy to do that

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so uh here we go

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uh this is an interview titled carrie

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cassidy and mark richards an interview

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with kevin moore by terry joyce

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okay so here we go and i look this is

378
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before she was blonde this is in 2019

379
00:17:10,949 --> 00:17:09,760
she must have been redhead for a while

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right

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joy show here on youtube

382
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and hopefully it will re-air on american

383
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freedom radio

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uh today my guest is kevin daniel moore

385
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uh welcome to the show today thank you

386
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thank you so much terry for having me

387
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:25,199
all

388
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pleasure thank you i'm glad to i'm glad

389
00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:28,640
to see you in person

390
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:30,799
yeah i know we've talked a little bit um

391
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on the telephone

392
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i know some bits about your work and i

393
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thought you know what you're going to

394
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give us the opportunity to have an

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interview and i

396
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just wanted to talk about the work that

397
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i'm doing right now great i'm

398
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really looking forward to hearing about

399
00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:44,720
it so you are and i just want to mention

400
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:46,480
i'm not sure which but this

401
00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:48,480
this interview was conducted like at a

402
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:50,320
conference or something like that uh

403
00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:51,600
which is very common

404
00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:53,520
you know niche market here so when

405
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you're in a conference with a bunch of

406
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people that are into the

407
00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:58,160
these topics a lot of interviews take

408
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place and i think terry always

409
00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:00,960
ran around the conference interviewing

410
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everybody she could to her credit i'd do

411
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:04,320
the same thing

412
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are working on a documentary about

413
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carrie cassidy

414
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and her one of her secret space program

415
00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:15,760
uh disclosures uh captain mark richards

416
00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:19,039
yes i am i am i wouldn't say

417
00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:20,559
when i say the documentary from kerry

418
00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:23,200
castley no is she gonna be included in

419
00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:24,799
this documentary

420
00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:27,919
very possible very possibly i'd say it's

421
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more than very possible

422
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he's going to put he's going to put some

423
00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:32,080
of these phone clips in at the very

424
00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:32,799
least

425
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and i got to tell you they're gold and

426
00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:37,120
also you know i hear once in a while

427
00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:38,080
people

428
00:18:41,909 --> 00:18:40,400
say things that are somewhat disparaging

429
00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:41,919
because kevin moore's been working on

430
00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:43,520
this documentary for a long time

431
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:46,880
he keeps adding to it or you know uh

432
00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:48,720
i think most recently he wanted to hire

433
00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:50,960
actors to do recreations of some of the

434
00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:52,640
stuff or something but

435
00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:54,480
last i talked to him you know he's in

436
00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:56,400
the final stages of it and

437
00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,320
i say kudos to him it doesn't matter how

438
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:00,240
long it takes you because

439
00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:02,799
making a documentary is no easy project

440
00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:04,559
and i give a lot of credit for even

441
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:05,760
making the attempt

442
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:07,679
i think i don't know if we cannot not

443
00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:08,960
include her because

444
00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,120
she's the reason why captain mark

445
00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:13,440
richards is back out there as famous

446
00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:16,960
as he is in the kind of micro circuit

447
00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:20,720
of uh project camelot right um no kerry

448
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,000
i don't think there would be a mark

449
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:24,240
richards i don't think riches his wife

450
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:26,000
would have been able to get as much

451
00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:27,840
publicity as what

452
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:30,000
the notoriety of what kerry has done for

453
00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:31,280
this man she's made him

454
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:33,919
the top whistleblower and i i know yes

455
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:34,320
so

456
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:37,520
it's important to note just right there

457
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:40,880
carrie cassidy her top whistleblower is

458
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:42,960
a convicted murderer who's been in

459
00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:44,880
prison for 35 years

460
00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:46,880
that's her top that's the best that

461
00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:48,799
she's got great kerry

462
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:51,760
great job what a great journalist you

463
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:52,160
are

464
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:53,840
no idea when i was starting to do this

465
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:56,960
documentary on on captain mark richards

466
00:20:03,110 --> 00:19:59,520
that uh that the guy was just you know

467
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:05,750
i have uh seen a youtube video of

468
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:07,520
captain mark richter's uh i think

469
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:10,000
i saw one of the first videos she did on

470
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:10,880
him

471
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,919
and uh you know she would come out she

472
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:14,960
would talk about

473
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:17,200
going into seeing him that she couldn't

474
00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:18,720
put him on camera

475
00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:21,280
and then she come out from memory she

476
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:22,400
would disclose

477
00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:24,720
the information about captain mark

478
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:25,600
richards by

479
00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:29,120
memory and uh and and here

480
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:32,640
we naive viewers are believing

481
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:36,080
all of it uh do you do you yeah so those

482
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:38,159
that don't know

483
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:39,840
i don't know if she's not allowed to

484
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:41,760
take notes which doesn't make any sense

485
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,200
to me i don't know why the prison

486
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,960
officials would stop her from recording

487
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,640
an interview with mark richards or

488
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,880
taking notes but she claims they won't

489
00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:50,559
let her take any notes they won't let

490
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:51,679
her record him

491
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:53,919
so she just asks some questions and

492
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:55,840
remembers everything he said

493
00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:58,159
and then repeats it verbatim which is

494
00:21:02,549 --> 00:20:59,840
problematic at best

495
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,559
because more than likely considering uh

496
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:04,720
carrie cassidy's ability to embellish

497
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:05,840
and add

498
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,320
fake facts we've just seen it in this

499
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,640
mark mccandless story nobody said

500
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:12,400
that mark mccandless was murdered by

501
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:14,400
dark magicians of the cabal that was

502
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:16,159
something she added on

503
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:19,280
so it's quite possible even probable

504
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:21,039
that she does go there and talk to him

505
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,559
but then she just goes to a ufo

506
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:24,400
conference and makes up a bunch of crap

507
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:24,720
and

508
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:27,679
says he told me this i think that maybe

509
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:29,440
there's a possibility that she never

510
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,080
even

511
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:32,080
saw captain mark richards and she's just

512
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:33,919
like regurgitating her

513
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:37,039
own uh fantasy or misinformation about

514
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,880
what's going on he's just a figurehead a

515
00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:40,159
photo for people

516
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:42,960
yeah it's possible but i i think she

517
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,760
goes

518
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,520
to see him she's been to see him 10

519
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:47,200
times now she's the only journalist

520
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:48,960
that's been to see him

521
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:51,760
and he's been locked away for 36 years

522
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:52,159
or

523
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:56,400
been in prison now then because this is

524
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:56,720
uh

525
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:58,960
2019 and certainly mr moore is more

526
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,080
informed of

527
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,640
mark richard's prison stay than i am the

528
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:03,919
murder of his friend

529
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:05,919
richard baldwin which is richard

530
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,600
alexandra baldwin

531
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:09,360
along with his crime partner crosston

532
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:10,880
hoover now the thing is

533
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,400
we as a young audience trust carrie

534
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,559
cassidy that she's vetted these people

535
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,640
you know i i never ever considered that

536
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:20,000
kerry doesn't bet

537
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:22,240
you know the people that she has as

538
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,360
long-term guests

539
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:25,520
on her show i mean like yeah and i have

540
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:26,799
to say like

541
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:29,520
when i realized i was one time very

542
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,559
naive as well

543
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,440
and when i would hear a presenter

544
00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:35,039
interviewing someone

545
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:37,120
who said they were a captain or said

546
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:39,440
they were an admiral or said they were a

547
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:40,320
physicist

548
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,840
or you know a biologist or whatever they

549
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:45,360
said they were

550
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:48,640
i naively assumed that the presenter or

551
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:51,520
the interviewer had already vetted them

552
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:53,760
and wouldn't be just letting them make

553
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:55,120
false statements about

554
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,880
their education or about their

555
00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,320
credentials

556
00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,640
and i have to admit that uh you know it

557
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,799
was years ago when i started doing fact

558
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,559
checking of these people but i was

559
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:06,320
shocked at how many

560
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:09,360
ufo presenters interviewers

561
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,480
show hosts don't vet anything

562
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,320
about their guests they just let their

563
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,000
guests say that they're

564
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:18,799
whatever you know uh carrie cassidy

565
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:20,640
famously has people on that say they're

566
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:21,280
doctors

567
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,039
order a doctorate degree from some

568
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:27,120
degree mill and hang it on their wall

569
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:29,200
they never went to medical school but

570
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:30,880
they're calling themselves doctor and

571
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:31,440
she just

572
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:34,240
lets them call themselves doctor i think

573
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:36,159
a good interviewer

574
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:39,280
would look into the guests and say hold

575
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,640
on a minute doctor

576
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:42,640
because i found your degree and it's not

577
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:44,320
real why are you calling yourself a

578
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:44,960
doctor

579
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,200
that's just me though i mean everybody

580
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:49,200
has their own style but carrie cassidy's

581
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:50,159
style is to just

582
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:53,600
accept whatever garbage information

583
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:56,240
people give her as long as it fits her

584
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:57,279
preconceived

585
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,679
narrative of the way the aliens are

586
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:01,520
working in the secrets

587
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,400
space program and the reptilian aliens

588
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:06,400
that are in control of the universe and

589
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:07,120
all this

590
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:08,640
crap that she already believes if

591
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:11,039
somebody tells her a story

592
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:13,360
that fits her narrative she runs with it

593
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,159
she doesn't check

594
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:16,720
anything like yourself and myself maybe

595
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:18,080
you know if someone's coming on for an

596
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:18,880
hour

597
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,799
what wedding are we gonna do do you know

598
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,720
what i mean you know if

599
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,559
if there's some inconsistencies in the

600
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:26,159
story maybe we'll pick them up in the

601
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,440
interview

602
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:29,520
um but unless it's complete bollocks you

603
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:30,480
know we

604
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:32,159
we're there to give the airspace to the

605
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:33,919
people and for them to talk about their

606
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:34,960
work

607
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,960
um i tell you what the documentary has

608
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,360
done for me the word discernment just

609
00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:41,440
is just beaming out of me right now and

610
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,520
i want that the documentary to be a

611
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:45,360
discerning documentary

612
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:47,840
for i want to call it our community the

613
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:48,799
community the

614
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,279
the community that i've been a part of

615
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:53,520
since 2008 when i first

616
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:55,760
took up radio broadcasting at glamorgan

617
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:58,240
university in wales

618
00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:01,360
and um i was shocked i was shocked to

619
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:02,400
find out

620
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,679
that when i interviewed kerry cassidy in

621
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,400
los angeles back in june last year

622
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:10,159
i mentioned mark richards because

623
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:12,000
previously i had interviewed joanne

624
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,760
richards in 2013.

625
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:15,360
didn't think the story was very credible

626
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:16,720
but i thought you know it's got a lot of

627
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:17,600
attraction right now

628
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:20,159
so it's kind of in fashion yeah and just

629
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:21,600
to point out these two have

630
00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:25,039
a running history right now uh i believe

631
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:27,120
that kevin moore calls her crazy kerry

632
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,159
cassidy

633
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,480
which is uh a term that many have

634
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:32,320
adopted when referring to her

635
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,360
he coined that and kerry cassidy is no

636
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:38,080
fan of kevin moore right now i've heard

637
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:39,679
her make disparaging marx

638
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,679
remarks about him on her videos many

639
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:43,679
many times

640
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,760
so you know just a note these two have

641
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:47,760
no love for each other there are sort of

642
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:51,039
arch nemesis i would say in a way in a

643
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,960
weird way

644
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,880
it definitely was more and when i

645
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,640
interviewed kerry last year

646
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:58,080
and there was a guy on there that

647
00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:59,600
trolled me that basically would not

648
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,679
leave me alone a guy called jeff

649
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:03,840
who basically you know had been trying

650
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,440
to get the attention of someone for many

651
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:07,440
years that this story was bogus

652
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:09,440
so once i've done the interview with uh

653
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:11,600
with uh kerry it left los angeles went

654
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,440
to content

655
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:16,000
i was just losing faith absolutely

656
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,200
because i just i've watched david

657
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:18,880
wilcock give a speech i've watched corey

658
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:19,760
good and

659
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:21,840
many other secrets facebook and

660
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,960
whistleblowers there

661
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:24,320
and i just knew that you know just like

662
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,679
this is just not right some of this

663
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,120
stuff it's just a load of crap

664
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:29,279
right or i did i didn't resonate with it

665
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,400
at all

666
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:32,640
and then all of a sudden i get this guy

667
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,799
exploding on my facebook page saying how

668
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,720
dare you interview this

669
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,400
this lady in a sense you know she

670
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,080
mentioned me on that interview you know

671
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,760
it was me that tried to contact you five

672
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:43,440
years ago four years ago or whatever it

673
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:43,919
was

674
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:46,640
called jeff and i said to him well

675
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:47,039
listen

676
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:49,039
yeah and some of you i think he might be

677
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:50,720
referring to g off

678
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:53,919
uh yeah let's speak man to man over the

679
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:54,640
phone

680
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:57,279
i'll ask what what are you talking about

681
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:59,440
about this mark richards isn't true

682
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,520
so anyway we had a good conversation on

683
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:03,279
the phone and i decided that it was

684
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,799
worth my time to leave palm desert

685
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:06,000
springs and head up

686
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,559
to uh paradise where the paradise fires

687
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:10,080
happened where jeff was based

688
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,000
i was all swallowed yeah it's definitely

689
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:13,840
geoff that he's talking about here

690
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,559
i'm recording a documentary on

691
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,480
channeling which is yet to be released

692
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,480
again that documentary will be my

693
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:21,600
journey and a lot more

694
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,720
discerning now i've done this

695
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,640
documentary with mark richards

696
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:26,720
so i get there and he shows us links we

697
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:28,159
record an interview together

698
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,320
and i take these links away back to the

699
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:32,159
uk that i've seen and i was like this is

700
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,919
just not right there's a back story here

701
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,440
on this guy mark richards

702
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:37,679
there's a story called pen dragon why

703
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:40,320
isn't this on terry cassidy's channel

704
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:42,480
so um it's not on carrie's channel

705
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:43,760
because she does zero

706
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:46,159
actual research she just takes people's

707
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:48,880
fake stories and lets them run with it

708
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,640
and then she injects her own stuff like

709
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:52,000
once a while she'll interrupt them and

710
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:52,720
go

711
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:55,840
well i have psychic powers and i'm a pre

712
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:56,559
cog

713
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:59,120
i see things before they happen and i

714
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:01,039
astral travel

715
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,080
yeah okay carrie um i

716
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,120
um i called her

717
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:09,600
and and why don't we play back the the

718
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:11,760
audio recording that we did with her now

719
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,399
because

720
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:14,880
she asked permission to recall that

721
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:16,000
conversation

722
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:17,440
i've not released it yet if you want to

723
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:18,960
put it in this show we can play it back

724
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:20,000
now

725
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:25,120
i don't think it is actually i'm not

726
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:26,320
going to use video because

727
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:28,799
i um we have a very low bandwidth here

728
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:31,039
so okay let's just use the audio that's

729
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:32,399
fine then yeah that's that's cool yeah

730
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:33,840
sorry i kept missing you and everything

731
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:34,399
else

732
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,240
that was my fault a little bit i just

733
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,399
got back to the uk yesterday

734
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:40,640
uh last night actually so that was a

735
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,679
long flight

736
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:44,080
uh yes so yeah you're over in the uk

737
00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:45,679
then

738
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,960
i am yes okay cool cool yeah um

739
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,159
well yeah what i've been wanting to

740
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:52,080
reach you for

741
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,840
was um just to let you know about uh

742
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:58,320
a chat that i run into when i was over

743
00:29:01,990 --> 00:28:59,279
in uh

744
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:02,000
san francisco so i was over at contact

745
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:03,440
in the desert

746
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,880
and um which i just released my

747
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:08,880
interview with yourself

748
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,159
and when i was at contact then i then i

749
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:14,080
was then this this this chat that

750
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:17,120
uh this chat got in contact with the spy

751
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,760
by audio by by the phone uh eventually

752
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:21,360
once we swap numbers and everything

753
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,399
else to tell me a story about mark this

754
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,000
this chat mark mark richards now

755
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:28,080
initially i did not want to speak to him

756
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:28,880
really

757
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:31,440
uh because i didn't want anything to do

758
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,640
with it you know what i mean i've just

759
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,559
i've put my interview with you out

760
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,120
and it it really you know it's really

761
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,039
not not my business to be honest with

762
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:40,880
you

763
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,559
but but doing this documentary on

764
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:46,159
challenges

765
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:48,080
yeah it's gonna get good friends one

766
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:50,159
thing it's it's shown me is that

767
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,880
i i've shown i've had to show

768
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:54,000
discernment just in

769
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,760
in in that channeling documentary quite

770
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,120
a bit right

771
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:59,600
and i thought well if i'm going to apply

772
00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:00,320
it to that

773
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,399
then maybe i should apply it to this

774
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,399
other you know side as well this ufo

775
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:06,399
side that i'm into

776
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:09,039
so i thought about it and i thought well

777
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:09,600
go on then

778
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:12,320
i'll speak to him and i did and it's

779
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,960
it's it

780
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:14,640
it was interesting what he had to say

781
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:16,880
this this this guy

782
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:20,320
new uh knew the son

783
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,520
of um a guy called baldwin the guy that

784
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:25,360
was this guy that was murdered

785
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:28,799
uh in um in in in the

786
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:32,000
in the case of mark richards that that's

787
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:33,520
how it that's how he didn't

788
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:36,640
he knew the son not not the family much

789
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,200
but anyway so he's telling me this story

790
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:41,279
over the phone and he sends me a couple

791
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,240
of links

792
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:44,640
and it was just interesting what was in

793
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:47,039
the what the links had to say i i'd

794
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:48,559
never come across the murder before i

795
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:50,000
thought mark richards was you know

796
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:51,520
innocent did you know what i mean like

797
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:53,039
like probably you do

798
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:57,200
as well um you thought he was what

799
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,720
no i'm saying i thought he was innocent

800
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:00,960
i i mean when i when i watched it

801
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:03,519
he is actually innocent yeah carrie

802
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,080
cassidy

803
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:05,919
claims that he's totally innocent of the

804
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,000
murder he was framed for it because he

805
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:10,159
knew too much about the aliens

806
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:13,200
uh now uh i i'm gonna record this if you

807
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:13,679
don't mind

808
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,640
and by the way uh you could you should

809
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,480
turn your video off because it still

810
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:20,559
looks like it's trying to put video on

811
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:22,399
which is dragging down the bandwidth oh

812
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:23,279
hang on man

813
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:25,440
so you put us you have to actually hit

814
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:26,640
your camera

815
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:29,200
and turn it off which is you know when

816
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:31,120
you click on your camera it either

817
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:33,039
has a slash through it meaning it's off

818
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:34,399
yeah it's got the slash through there

819
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,750
okay well it seems i guess we're having

820
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,519
low bandwidth all right well whatever we

821
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:43,120
can't do anything about it

822
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:45,760
okay let's make sure you're kevin moore

823
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:46,960
and you're saying

824
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,279
you you know you're you interviewed me

825
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,600
and then you got contacted by some guy

826
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,840
and could you clarify who this guy is

827
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,679
because what i'd like to do is

828
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:57,600
uh if you don't mind it's up to you if

829
00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:59,039
you want you know if you don't want me

830
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:01,039
to pass it on i won't but i would

831
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,080
i would give it to joanne mark's wife

832
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,279
so he sees what people are doing uh so

833
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:09,360
you know because obviously they have a

834
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:10,559
legal case

835
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,279
they're trying to get mark out of prison

836
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:15,760
if people are calling people associated

837
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,320
with me

838
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,320
and giving them you know wrong

839
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,919
information or whatever kind of

840
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,440
information they're giving yeah and just

841
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,279
a note mark richards has been trying to

842
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:25,360
get out of prison for quite some time

843
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:28,399
one of the big problems however is

844
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:31,200
you are not going to get out on parole

845
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:32,880
unless you admit

846
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:36,320
what you did and show remorse and mark

847
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,440
richards and his wife

848
00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:39,120
and carrie cassidy are running around

849
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,840
saying that he was framed by the

850
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,080
government

851
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:44,799
and he didn't do anything he didn't take

852
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,240
part in this murder

853
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:48,159
that doesn't sit well with parole boards

854
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:50,320
and so they won't let you out

855
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,360
so whatever carrie cassidy believes

856
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,440
about his guilt or innocence she's

857
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,240
doing harm to even mark richards because

858
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,399
he's never going to get out of prison

859
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,720
while he his wife and kyrie cassidy are

860
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:04,640
running around saying that he didn't do

861
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:05,200
anything

862
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,840
he got framed you know because he knew

863
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:09,760
too much about aliens

864
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:11,440
the parole board's going to just deny

865
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,039
him let him rot in prison

866
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:15,200
if he won't admit what he did 35 years

867
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:16,559
ago was wrong

868
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:19,919
and show remorse for it i mean it can be

869
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:21,279
very useful for them

870
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:24,000
so um do you mind that or would you

871
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,799
rather i don't

872
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,399
know you of course you can you can pass

873
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:28,559
it on absolutely

874
00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:31,360
all right so um if you could tell me

875
00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:33,519
again who is this person that called you

876
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:37,360
uh this is a guy called jeff reed

877
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:41,120
jeff reese reed

878
00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,990
okay and then what was the

879
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:51,919
the gist of what he was saying again i

880
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:53,200
don't quite understand

881
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:56,960
sure sure um well

882
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:59,120
again i i'll say i'll say i'll answer it

883
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:00,480
from this perspective right

884
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:02,799
before i just answer that like like i

885
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:05,360
said to you um

886
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:08,000
i mean i've interviewed joanne um many

887
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:10,000
oh god man it was a few years ago now do

888
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:11,200
you know what i mean it was many moons

889
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:11,919
ago

890
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:15,679
um was it 2013 it might have been

891
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:18,720
i interviewed her because well i guess

892
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,480
you know i knew it was a popular subject

893
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,320
at the time just like years ago this was

894
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,240
and it was a popular subject

895
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,359
but um i mean there were some things in

896
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:29,040
the story that didn't sit with me do you

897
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:30,399
know what i mean but you know hey we

898
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:31,839
don't believe in everything we're told

899
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,720
do we

900
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:35,280
but no the the main thing the main thing

901
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:36,159
was you know

902
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:40,399
been innocently framed and um

903
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,520
i think anyone watching um or having

904
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:45,359
seen your interviews with this guy would

905
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:46,879
have felt the same way

906
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,879
and no i don't think anybody would i saw

907
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:50,720
her interviews with him

908
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,200
and uh immediately thought if he's a

909
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:55,200
murderer he's not credible if he was

910
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:57,760
convicted by a jury of his peers chances

911
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:58,800
are

912
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:02,000
he is guilty uh you know and i looked

913
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,280
into the case somewhat

914
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:06,000
and was surprised that anybody would

915
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:06,960
trust him

916
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,079
given what he is accused of and

917
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,520
convicted of uh

918
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,440
by the way the sixth sense helping out

919
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:15,359
in the live chat uh

920
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:19,200
great moderation thank you july 16 1982

921
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,920
richard alexander baldwin 36 was

922
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:23,920
murdered by mark richards

923
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,640
and crossing david hoover he was beaten

924
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:27,839
with a baseball bat

925
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:30,480
and stabbed with a knife and screwdriver

926
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:30,960
in

927
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,839
like somebody

928
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,280
that you should trust when he starts

929
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,119
telling you stories about aliens

930
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:42,000
carry cassidy is that how dumb you are

931
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:43,359
are you that dumb

932
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:46,079
or that naive which it's one or the

933
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:47,040
other

934
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:50,640
or are you

935
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,359
you just don't care because you know

936
00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:55,440
he's telling a story that you can sell

937
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,829
you know that i mean i wasn't thinking

938
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:06,000
of um

939
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,280
mark richards do you know what i mean

940
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:09,920
much when we done did the interview with

941
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:11,040
yourself but

942
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,960
this this was a chat that that i

943
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,640
contacted me before

944
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:16,720
years ago when i released that first

945
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,320
interview with joanne

946
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:20,800
um after the interview he contacted well

947
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:22,800
i say contacted we had a slight email

948
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:23,680
exchange

949
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:26,079
but again you know i forgot about his

950
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:27,839
email exchange

951
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:29,839
um loads of other things going on you

952
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:32,000
know that's not my life but

953
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,839
when he recontacted me again while i was

954
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:35,920
at contact in the desert

955
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:37,920
um he was like you know this is the guy

956
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:39,520
that sent me that original email i was

957
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:40,480
like

958
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,920
oh hang on i do know you and then he got

959
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:43,839
it into a bit of a heated argument

960
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,560
because

961
00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:46,640
i really didn't want to know about it

962
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,839
you know what i mean you know

963
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,920
you know unless he's got some really

964
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:51,040
good evidence that

965
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,720
that this man's innocent you can't go

966
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,400
around and just

967
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:56,160
you know saying that someone is guilty i

968
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:58,000
mean you know that doesn't work in my

969
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,520
book you have to you know

970
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,960
have to be provable do you know what i

971
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:02,720
mean and and

972
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,760
at the same time i didn't want to get

973
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:06,160
involved in it neither because um

974
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,520
well i'm making a documentary on

975
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,280
channeling i mean this is you know

976
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,599
i mean it's stuff i have this stuff but

977
00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:13,680
it's not stuff i'm focused on right now

978
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:16,560
oh but he would he would go on to focus

979
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,520
on it plenty

980
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:19,520
interviewing everyone he could about

981
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:20,800
mark richards

982
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:24,000
the murder case and everything else and

983
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:25,520
i for one can't wait to see his

984
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:26,640
documentary on it

985
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:29,440
you know what i mean but what was

986
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,400
interesting was

987
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:32,640
he was telling me the story that you

988
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:33,920
know and none of this can be backed up

989
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:34,400
not

990
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:36,240
none of this can be verified as such

991
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:37,920
this this part of his story but

992
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:41,680
as a child he knew um

993
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:44,320
the baldwin that that the son of baldwin

994
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:45,599
the son that the the

995
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:48,640
son of um

996
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:52,079
the chap that was murdered so um what's

997
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:53,520
the guy that was murdered what was his

998
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:54,640
name it was

999
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,599
um why am i got it in front of me it was

1000
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:59,359
just bear with me i'll just grab it the

1001
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,400
guy that

1002
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:03,200
was murdered was richard a baldwin 36 so

1003
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:04,079
richard a baldwin

1004
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:07,280
36 was the man that was murdered and

1005
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:09,920
and this guy knew that man's son and

1006
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:10,880
this guy

1007
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:13,040
was also from that area as well he was a

1008
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:14,079
kid at the time

1009
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,240
so when that murder of richard a baldwin

1010
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:18,880
took place you know um

1011
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:20,960
it was made very well known to him that

1012
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:22,079
you know you know that kid you was

1013
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:23,280
hanging around with well

1014
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,359
that ma that that that kid's their

1015
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:27,040
father is the man that's been

1016
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:30,320
murdered so you know so it you know he

1017
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,119
grew up in that

1018
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:33,760
in that era basically now again none of

1019
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:35,599
this is provable that he knew that that

1020
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:35,920
that

1021
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,480
uh bullshitting or perhaps bluffing

1022
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:47,119
because uh it turns out that that

1023
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,800
gentleman that got murdered had no

1024
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:50,160
children

1025
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:51,839
but what was interesting what he sent

1026
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:54,320
through to me

1027
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:00,079
sorry friends one second

1028
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:02,800
one second here if i don't have

1029
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,920
commercials on my show

1030
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,680
i'm not playing somebody else's and by

1031
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:07,440
the way that's a commercial for

1032
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:11,599
gaia tv and i am not a fan

1033
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:14,720
so let's get back to this one second

1034
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:20,069
you know i always forget that when

1035
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:21,760
there's a monetized video that i want to

1036
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:23,920
share portions of i should just download

1037
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:24,640
it

1038
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:28,160
those but

1039
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:29,920
i always forget to do that so my

1040
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,280
apologies

1041
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:33,599
let's get back to the uh interview

1042
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:34,800
because it's about to really start

1043
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:35,680
heating up

1044
00:39:40,829 --> 00:39:38,720
was the 22 links on the actual murder

1045
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:40,839
case

1046
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:43,200
and when i started going through the

1047
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:44,960
links

1048
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:48,800
well it was kind of obvious to me then

1049
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:50,800
that this murder really did take place

1050
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:51,520
right

1051
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,800
and it's such an old case that it's

1052
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:57,359
it's it's not a modern case this was 19

1053
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:58,400
this was july 6

1054
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,160
1982 so it's you know it may seem not

1055
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,160
that long ago for some people but

1056
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:06,000
actually that that is a while ago that

1057
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,200
is a while ago

1058
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,359
and a couple of the people who were

1059
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:10,480
released

1060
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:13,280
recently uh hoover was one of the kids

1061
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:14,400
associated with

1062
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:17,520
um uh richard um that's not richard i

1063
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:18,160
mean mark

1064
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:21,040
mark mark that wasn't that was that was

1065
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:22,000
um

1066
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:23,920
enticed by mark to make the murder

1067
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:25,440
happen um

1068
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:29,119
he was released recently in 2007 so on

1069
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,560
seattle times and abc news uh

1070
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,720
i've also got the articles for those as

1071
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,400
well where where richard's

1072
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:38,480
accomplices were released it was

1073
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,839
actually a bit of a

1074
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:42,000
little famous case because this guy was

1075
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:43,200
a complete nutcase

1076
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:50,870
this new camera up in in the golden gate

1077
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,280
area um yeah mark richards was going to

1078
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,640
set up a new camelot

1079
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,359
and was recruiting cult members and like

1080
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,359
much like charles manson he sent them

1081
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,680
out to murder people

1082
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:03,680
great guy really trustworthy source

1083
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,720
carrie really

1084
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,240
i know it sounds crazy what i'm saying

1085
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,160
to you but again reading the

1086
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:10,079
documents you're assuming that i know

1087
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:12,000
nothing about the case when i've done a

1088
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:13,680
lot of investigation

1089
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:16,160
so i know all about that and actually he

1090
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,200
wasn't a nut

1091
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,280
and he wasn't doing that and the whole

1092
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,040
thing was manufactured

1093
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:23,359
but no i understand there are court

1094
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:25,680
documents stating he was doing

1095
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:28,960
exactly that kerry cassidy people

1096
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,400
testified under oath

1097
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:32,560
that he was doing exactly that carrie

1098
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,520
cassidy

1099
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:35,359
he wasn't doing that then why did people

1100
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:36,880
testify under oath that he

1101
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:40,960
indeed was doing those things what

1102
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:43,440
what kind of research did you do did you

1103
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,160
just

1104
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,880
discount or throw out everything that

1105
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:49,200
didn't support your pre-made hypothesis

1106
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:50,720
that he was framed

1107
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:53,760
by the deep state and the c.i.a hey

1108
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:54,720
maybe it was a

1109
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:57,599
deep state asset like me like you've

1110
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:58,400
accused me

1111
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:00,800
of being carrie cassidy that framed him

1112
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:02,880
for this murder sure

1113
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,359
sure carrie cassidy and the perspective

1114
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:07,040
out there and i understand the links and

1115
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:08,400
the things you've read

1116
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,359
so what is the you know i guess kind of

1117
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:13,359
wanting you to cut to the chase because

1118
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:14,319
we don't have

1119
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:15,520
i don't have a lot of time i'm

1120
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:17,920
passionate etc

1121
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:21,040
so if you could what new information was

1122
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,880
this person trying to provide

1123
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,200
well i never knew about the if you knew

1124
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:27,200
about these links before i don't think

1125
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,160
you you that's not like out there as

1126
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,680
those these links are out there and

1127
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,760
people can just find them most people go

1128
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:35,440
along with the story

1129
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:37,359
that mark rich is telling you and they

1130
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:39,040
don't know about the opposing

1131
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,119
hey kevin moore i hope you don't mind me

1132
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,119
sharing this but uh

1133
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:44,880
terry joyce just started a new channel

1134
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:46,800
and i wanted to sort of uh

1135
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,839
uh show people some of her past amazing

1136
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,760
work and i this is one of my favorites

1137
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,520
this interview that she did with you and

1138
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:55,200
also i think a lot of people haven't

1139
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,079
heard

1140
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,720
this tape which i think is gold of you

1141
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,800
confronting carrie cassidy about mark

1142
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:01,760
richards being

1143
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,359
uh um a slimy murderer

1144
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:07,359
i think it's gold and thank you for

1145
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:09,440
doing this and thank you for sharing it

1146
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:10,839
so that people can see

1147
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,839
what the quality of carrie cassidy's

1148
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,040
research is

1149
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:17,280
22 links or 23 links as i'm telling you

1150
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,960
that they won't know about it

1151
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:20,480
all you have to do is do a search on the

1152
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:22,160
web you can find this stuff i don't

1153
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,440
think most people are doing those

1154
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,960
searches they'll just take it as

1155
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,640
so that's their business i mean that

1156
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,480
happens with everything i release

1157
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,079
they'll they'll take that okay say what

1158
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,720
people investigate and what they take

1159
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:34,800
you know it's dead easy to put a a

1160
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:36,560
search term into google and start your

1161
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,040
search

1162
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:39,359
sure sure i i was one of those people

1163
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:40,480
that wouldn't have done that i don't

1164
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:41,119
think i don't know

1165
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:42,720
and i just want to say that he's being

1166
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,640
extremely nice to her

1167
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:47,040
given the proof the absolute proof that

1168
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:49,119
he has in the form of all these

1169
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:52,560
court documents mainstream media stories

1170
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:54,240
about the other people involved in them

1171
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:57,119
he has got a mountain of evidence that

1172
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:58,560
carrie cassidy is full

1173
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:01,680
[\h__\h] but he's just too english polite to

1174
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,160
just

1175
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:04,240
you know like ram it down her throat so

1176
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:05,359
he's going to slow

1177
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:07,599
feed it to her and it just gets better

1178
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:09,200
from here well i just i was just

1179
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:10,640
i just i just want you know it's not

1180
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,640
something you know whatever okay

1181
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,000
because it's an interesting it's like

1182
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,680
it's so out there the story is

1183
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,880
it's so interesting but what the

1184
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,560
interesting part about his backstory

1185
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:19,920
about in the court cases

1186
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,480
was he was so out there anyway in the

1187
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,960
original court case you know he had this

1188
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,880
he wanted to be the new king arthurs and

1189
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,960
such and put put this

1190
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,720
yeah this is not accurate but

1191
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:32,640
nonetheless whatever well well

1192
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,400
well wow

1193
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,040
operation and that could be the case

1194
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:41,599
whatever details they decided

1195
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:43,920
oh kevin moore how do i contact you on

1196
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:45,680
twitter

1197
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,910
the act kevin moore

1198
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:55,589
having more show there we go i'm gonna

1199
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:57,280
send you i absolutely

1200
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,079
look at this this is an unexpected i i

1201
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:01,920
just joked at the beginning of the show

1202
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,440
kevin moore that you said before we'll

1203
00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:05,280
do a show together and i would you know

1204
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,119
but you're a very busy guy

1205
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:09,599
so uh i am going to send you an invite

1206
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:10,640
right now

1207
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:13,920
in your twitter dms and

1208
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,720
praise the last minute great guest i

1209
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,000
would love to talk to you

1210
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:21,040
so uh we're gonna we're gonna do that

1211
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,550
uh one second one second friends i gotta

1212
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:32,160
send this off to him because we don't

1213
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:32,960
want to miss this

1214
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,640
opportunity i don't know when we'll get

1215
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,000
it again

1216
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,710
there we go the kevin moore show okay

1217
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:42,960
i'm gonna send i'm gonna dm you

1218
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:46,319
oh it doesn't

1219
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,520
dm me uh kevin or how do i get this to

1220
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,040
you because your dms are not

1221
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:53,599
open how do i get the invitation to you

1222
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:56,079
or send me an email at

1223
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:58,160
here one second i'll put my uh i'll put

1224
00:46:02,870 --> 00:45:59,599
my

1225
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:02,880
send me an email

1226
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:06,800
at truthseekershow gmail.com

1227
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:16,870
truthseeker show gmail.com

1228
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,510
here's my email kevin i will check my

1229
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,359
email and send it right to you let me

1230
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,720
get into my email or

1231
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,960
send me a dm on twitter it's at

1232
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:27,040
stevencambian on twitter

1233
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,160
and i will get you the the show

1234
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:32,079
invitation link we would love to hear an

1235
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,079
update about this

1236
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:36,640
we would absolutely love that uh and i

1237
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:38,000
would be my pleasure to

1238
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:41,119
to hear that i'm going to continue

1239
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,880
this uh conversation between you and

1240
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,560
cassidy in the meantime and hope that

1241
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:46,240
you reach out to me

1242
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:47,920
again it's truth seeker show at

1243
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:50,720
gmail.com or dm me on twitter at

1244
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:52,960
stevencambian i have the link ready

1245
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:56,160
copy pasted and ready to send to you and

1246
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:56,960
uh would

1247
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,119
most i would love to hear an update on

1248
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:01,200
this

1249
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:03,359
so yeah i've sent the link uh we're

1250
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:04,319
gonna continue

1251
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:08,079
listening to this yes uh out of mind

1252
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,520
thanks everybody i hear

1253
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:11,599
i hear it and i'm trying to get the link

1254
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:13,440
to him uh oh wait a minute here he's

1255
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,200
giving me the email address i could do

1256
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:16,800
that

1257
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:20,160
show.com

1258
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:23,680
all right one second let me

1259
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,880
let me send it to you right now please

1260
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:29,520
bear with me

1261
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:32,640
is it about co.uk

1262
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:38,800
i'm going to send it to both

1263
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,359
one second so i've sent it to can i have

1264
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:43,520
you in my email buffer i guess kevin at

1265
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,640
the more show dot co dot uk

1266
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,000
and i'm gonna send it to the other one

1267
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:49,760
that you mentioned

1268
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:03,270
why i really need a producer

1269
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,750
that would be helpful right i gotta jump

1270
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:07,280
through too many hoops

1271
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:10,319
doing this stuff by myself

1272
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,079
okay one second we're gonna

1273
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:17,280
send that over there you go

1274
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:20,559
so i've sent it and uh we'll continue uh

1275
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,760
listening to uh you're confronting

1276
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:25,520
carrie cassidy in the meantime and then

1277
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:26,160
hopefully

1278
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,839
if all goes well we'll get kevin moore

1279
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,280
on here to do an interview

1280
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:31,920
uh about and well just to give us an

1281
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,160
update not really an interview

1282
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:36,319
uh i would really like that to be the

1283
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,520
truth but

1284
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:39,520
what if that wasn't the truth and the

1285
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:41,280
opposite was true have you considered

1286
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,599
that

1287
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:43,839
first anyone can entertain both sides of

1288
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,800
the story

1289
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:47,520
you know but i i what i'm saying i'm you

1290
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,200
know kevin i'm trying to

1291
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,599
cut to the chase here are you bringing

1292
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,440
me new information are you just saying

1293
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,200
go look at those links i've already done

1294
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:56,800
that so this is that would be the end of

1295
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:58,000
this conversation

1296
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,760
if you have new information if that guy

1297
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:01,040
has new information

1298
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,880
then what is the new information i just

1299
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:04,559
want to say listen to the arrogance of

1300
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,280
her

1301
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:07,680
because kevin moore is talking about 23

1302
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,760
links to information and she's saying

1303
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:12,000
i've already seen it all how does she

1304
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:13,520
know she's already seen all that

1305
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,960
information

1306
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:16,640
i don't think that she's done any

1307
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,880
research on this mark richards at all

1308
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,160
i don't think she's read the court

1309
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,720
documents even let alone all the

1310
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:24,800
all the extra information that kevin

1311
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:25,760
moore has

1312
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:28,640
right he's kevin moore if nothing else

1313
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:29,200
is very

1314
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:32,000
thorough and if he's convinced of

1315
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:33,040
something

1316
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:36,160
base it's based on his accumulated

1317
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:37,760
knowledge of the subject

1318
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:40,079
and unlike carrie cassidy who just oh

1319
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:41,440
are you telling a cool story about

1320
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,480
aliens

1321
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:45,359
come on with me well i didn't obviously

1322
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,880
i didn't know you knew about that so you

1323
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,640
know about those links right right right

1324
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:50,240
for god's sake i'm an investigative

1325
00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:52,559
reporter you know i'm interviewing some

1326
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:54,319
guy eight times i go to the trouble to

1327
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,359
go to prison

1328
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,040
i mean you know give me a little credit

1329
00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:59,520
here i do investigate my

1330
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:02,800
my people and their sources etc so you

1331
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:03,440
know i do

1332
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,359
as much due diligence as i find

1333
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:07,280
necessary and yes of course i've

1334
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,839
invested

1335
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,920
she said she doesn't investigate her

1336
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,440
sources i want to know if she

1337
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,119
investigated the court martial child

1338
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:14,880
molester that was her source

1339
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:16,559
did she know he was a court martial

1340
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:18,000
child molester

1341
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:21,280
uh what about sean david morton she

1342
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,440
believes that sean david morton every

1343
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:25,440
one of her criminal friends that

1344
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:28,079
goes to prison has gotten framed by the

1345
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,119
deep state

1346
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,839
isn't that how come carrie cassidy has

1347
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,960
so many friends

1348
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:34,800
that are getting framed by the deep

1349
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:37,200
state right

1350
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:38,720
you know what about her former

1351
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,559
association with bill ryan

1352
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:42,720
you know people can look into there's

1353
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:45,440
some shady stuff going on with bill

1354
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,200
too you know allegedly

1355
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:52,079
uh but it is what it is you know she

1356
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,680
associates with criminals and then when

1357
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:55,280
they get busted and go to prison or

1358
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:57,040
they're already in prison she says

1359
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:59,680
they were framed by the deep state good

1360
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,480
for you kerry

1361
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:02,559
getting the case but would you ever

1362
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,240
actually you know just so you know the

1363
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:05,920
background i investigated the case

1364
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:09,599
before i was ever in camelot

1365
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:11,200
right so you you because you knew of

1366
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:13,040
joanne back back before then yeah and i

1367
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:14,960
determined the guy was innocent and that

1368
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:16,880
i wanted to interview him before i ever

1369
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:19,280
knew i was going to be an interviewer

1370
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:20,800
but strangely enough

1371
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,400
but but what if he wasn't

1372
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:26,240
well of course what if he was trying to

1373
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:27,359
you know i mean that's always a

1374
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:29,119
possibility but if he was you know you

1375
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:30,160
you have to if

1376
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:32,960
you rely on your own but if he wasn't if

1377
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:33,440
he wasn't

1378
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,440
in her whatever kind of thing well i

1379
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:37,440
want to stop for a second just to

1380
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:40,640
acknowledge and thank uh f graph 72 with

1381
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:42,160
kind and generous two dollar

1382
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,920
donations and he says starting a

1383
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:48,000
producer production aid fund

1384
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:50,160
yeah i'll take any help that i can get

1385
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:51,920
i'm trying to train my five-year-old to

1386
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,160
run this stuff but he's not doing well

1387
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:57,040
i was yelling at him today like you're

1388
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,160
no help at all

1389
00:52:01,829 --> 00:52:00,079
you're worthless you know i felt like my

1390
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,839
father

1391
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:03,440
does anybody remember when you used to

1392
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:05,280
help your dad work on the car

1393
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,680
because i do and all i learned was i'm

1394
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:09,520
an idiot i'm worthless and i can't even

1395
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:11,920
shine a flashlight right

1396
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:13,599
but yeah we'll take all the help we can

1397
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:14,960
get here thank you very much for your

1398
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:16,400
kindness your generosity and your

1399
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:18,800
support this is a viewer supported show

1400
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:21,440
links in the about section here of how

1401
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,559
to support us

1402
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:24,720
throw us a couple of bucks or uh there's

1403
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,599
that money

1404
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:27,599
uh signed down in the live chat if you

1405
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:29,200
want to throw us a couple of bucks

1406
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:32,079
or the about the place to join us on

1407
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:33,280
patreon is right down

1408
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:36,319
in the description box of this video

1409
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:37,680
let's keep going with this because it's

1410
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:39,839
going to get here i mean i can't tell

1411
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,680
you what to think i i don't want to tell

1412
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,280
you what to think but if but i

1413
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:45,200
you know making a call to me you're

1414
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,200
claiming this guy calls you

1415
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:49,280
it did the guy call you just to direct

1416
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:51,520
you to some investigation that you could

1417
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:52,800
do on your own

1418
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:55,200
that you know any regular person can

1419
00:52:58,230 --> 00:52:56,000
just do

1420
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:58,240
or did he give you new information well

1421
00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:00,559
i never knew about anything

1422
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:03,200
so to me it wasn't she's getting kissed

1423
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:03,680
yeah

1424
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:05,760
and and i was going up to the irons

1425
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,079
institute to do a bit of a

1426
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,839
a bit of filming for the documentary i

1427
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:11,920
was making so he was only a couple of

1428
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:12,319
hours

1429
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:14,800
beyond that so i filmed i did a little

1430
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,720
interview with him just to film him

1431
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:19,119
and to me it was all uh rodrigo are you

1432
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,640
talking about which email

1433
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:22,640
because if you're emailing me it should

1434
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,880
be a truthseeker show at gmail.com are

1435
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:26,160
you talking about my old

1436
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:28,240
uh midnight hour email because i didn't

1437
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:29,760
get any email from you

1438
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:32,800
i would be uh i could check uh

1439
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:34,160
and people are mentioning that the

1440
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,000
discord server

1441
00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:37,920
link is invalid i would try it again

1442
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:39,440
because i just used it today and it's

1443
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:40,000
working

1444
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,839
near as i can tell otherwise i'll have

1445
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,920
to look into that after the show is over

1446
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,880
because i'm

1447
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,280
about uh as multitasked as i could be

1448
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:48,960
right about now

1449
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:51,040
well yeah to me it was all new news but

1450
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:52,720
obviously as you're saying here this is

1451
00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:53,200
all

1452
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:55,359
news that you've told before to me the

1453
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:56,400
thing was right

1454
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:58,880
but what what well if he wasn't innocent

1455
00:54:01,349 --> 00:54:00,160
and he had done and he had actually done

1456
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:01,359
these then then him

1457
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:03,119
trying to create this coup would have

1458
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,880
been just as crazy as the information

1459
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:06,559
he's bringing out now what if

1460
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:08,079
he is not telling the truth that's

1461
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:10,720
that's all i'm saying

1462
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:12,880
yeah what if he wasn't you know i mean

1463
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,760
duh

1464
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:15,599
i i you know this is you know it's just

1465
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,400
like that's so that's true of any case

1466
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,480
you know all i can tell you is you know

1467
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:22,800
i've i've sat with a man for hours on

1468
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:23,440
end

1469
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,079
i evaluated him i evaluated him based on

1470
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:28,319
my intuition and my investigation

1471
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:30,400
prior to every meeting with him you know

1472
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:32,960
i've spent hours with his wife as well

1473
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:34,800
i mean you know a person has to make

1474
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:37,119
their own evaluation as i said

1475
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,920
now are you evaluating people who are

1476
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:41,520
supporting the family

1477
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:43,280
of the murderers and keep in mind that

1478
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,799
mark is supposed to be

1479
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,880
you know of all things the mastermind

1480
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,640
which is complete absurdity

1481
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,319
um you know of two people who did the

1482
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,000
murder he didn't do the murder

1483
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:54,640
anyway from the point of view the state

1484
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:55,520
no

1485
00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:59,119
the guy with

1486
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:01,839
bats and knives and you know beat him

1487
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:02,720
and bludgeoning

1488
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:05,200
him and stabbed him to death he's the

1489
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,520
guy who sent the people to do it

1490
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,839
and it's been proven in a court of law

1491
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:11,599
he never he never put the screwdriver

1492
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:12,480
through the heart

1493
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:16,240
he never put it this concocted story

1494
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:18,160
and it's just the whole thing is

1495
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,079
ludicrous you know

1496
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,640
fine if it doesn't matter what you can

1497
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:24,079
believe whatever you want

1498
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,880
but for the purposes of this phone call

1499
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:28,160
i guess what you're doing is you're

1500
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,520
letting me know that you've done an

1501
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,200
interview with some guy

1502
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,599
who knew the son of the guy that was

1503
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:35,119
murdered is that correct

1504
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:38,880
uh that that's exactly who he was yeah

1505
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:42,480
okay fine so he's not exactly yes i do

1506
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:44,480
that close to the situation not at all

1507
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:45,520
and he's also

1508
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:47,359
somebody who's coming forward years

1509
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:48,640
later to se

1510
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:51,040
to suddenly try to contact you now it's

1511
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:52,880
interesting that he's trying to contact

1512
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,880
you and you said you interviewed joanne

1513
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:56,640
and he did the same thing then

1514
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,640
so uh then you have to ask yourself is

1515
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:00,319
this guy a paid informant

1516
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:03,599
is he working for the cia uh there is

1517
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:04,480
also

1518
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,640
reasons why a person comes forward in

1519
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,240
this way to try to

1520
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,559
just like in my case when i completely

1521
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:12,720
busted her fake stories on mark

1522
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:14,960
mccandlish i'm suddenly a deep state

1523
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:16,400
asset you hear what she's saying

1524
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:18,720
anybody that disagrees with her must be

1525
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:21,119
a paid disinformation agent or in my

1526
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:22,400
case a deep state

1527
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:25,760
asset said to throw people off about the

1528
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:27,200
truth about aliens

1529
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:30,720
right yeah every she says this all the

1530
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:31,040
time

1531
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:32,799
anybody that disagrees with her must be

1532
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:34,480
a cia plant right

1533
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:37,359
bring a journalist such as yourself into

1534
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,880
one direction or another

1535
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:41,040
you can believe him and it's fine if you

1536
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:43,040
did an interview um you know i guess

1537
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,720
thanks for letting me know if it's

1538
00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:46,319
not not that it matters too terribly

1539
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:48,400
much to me but yeah it doesn't matter to

1540
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:48,720
me

1541
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:51,359
that i'm peddling a fake story from a

1542
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:52,240
murderer

1543
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,920
and somebody's letting me know about

1544
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,760
that it doesn't matter to her and by the

1545
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,520
way rodrigo i put

1546
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,680
i put the email address up on the screen

1547
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,200
if you have something email me i'd be

1548
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:02,640
happy to hear from you and i check that

1549
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:03,440
email

1550
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:06,079
many times a day so generally i don't

1551
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,960
miss messages from that email

1552
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:11,040
there we go you know if you think i'm

1553
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,799
going to change my point of view because

1554
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,160
this guy is suddenly

1555
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,559
coming forward to say look at these

1556
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:18,319
links that have been out there for 20

1557
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:18,799
years

1558
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,160
not important

1559
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:24,400
no no no absolutely you cannot you

1560
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:26,160
cannot just judge a story just on one

1561
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:26,640
person's

1562
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:28,720
anger that that's actually what what it

1563
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:30,880
was for me was the 23 plus

1564
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:34,000
websites archive information about the

1565
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:35,440
case that that's that's what it what

1566
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:36,640
that's what it was like they are

1567
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:38,960
so i mean i thought myself well not all

1568
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:41,200
of this can be implanted cia information

1569
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:42,079
on these sites

1570
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:44,799
this looks like a very genuine uh kind

1571
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:45,200
of back

1572
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:47,680
story on on the on the this what this

1573
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,640
guy was up to

1574
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:50,720
listen to kevin moore coming at her with

1575
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:51,760
like logic

1576
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,559
and reason right and discernment and

1577
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,040
like critical thinking skills that she

1578
00:58:01,430 --> 00:58:00,000
completely totally doesn't understand

1579
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:01,440
and his accomplices as well

1580
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,799
now of course he never committed the

1581
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,480
murder but he was the one that egged

1582
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:06,720
these 17 year olds on at the time that's

1583
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:08,000
that's what they're saying

1584
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:09,200
he was the one that that that

1585
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:11,119
brainwashed him in a sense

1586
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,760
so so yeah right yeah yeah good luck

1587
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:15,119
with that

1588
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,079
yeah yeah but the thing is i mean most

1589
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:19,680
the people that took part in this case

1590
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:20,799
the superintendent

1591
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:23,440
and other people are dead right not dead

1592
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:24,400
or dying or all that

1593
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,599
or they're not around or they all

1594
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:27,359
they're just that they've you know

1595
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,589
it is an aim but you know there are

1596
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:35,440
other people that could be traced into

1597
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,960
this case that would if you

1598
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:38,880
if you put the homework in you would

1599
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:40,480
find that you could really trace the

1600
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,880
real

1601
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:43,200
people involved uh in this case but

1602
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:45,760
whether it's the 2007 release of hoover

1603
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:48,480
or as other people uh you you you would

1604
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:48,880
okay

1605
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,880
let me ask you this kevin because

1606
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:52,559
obviously this guy had nothing new to

1607
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:53,200
add no

1608
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:55,920
um have you ever investigated a false

1609
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,400
flag

1610
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:58,160
no just wait one second have you ever

1611
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:01,359
investigated the false flag

1612
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,720
do you know what i mean when i see a

1613
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,480
false flag i know what you mean by a

1614
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,319
false flag yeah

1615
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:08,079
i know what you mean by okay have you

1616
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:09,839
ever tried to investigate one

1617
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:12,319
well let me ask you this would you put

1618
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:13,200
these links out

1619
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:15,520
in a new video just to say look guys

1620
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:16,480
here's the

1621
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:20,400
don't no that's not what i do

1622
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:22,240
i have no interest in that i mean i'm

1623
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:24,880
not a reporter trying to investigate

1624
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:28,000
her but but then if i was if i was she

1625
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:29,760
doesn't care about the murder case she

1626
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:31,040
just cares about the

1627
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,400
she doesn't care about the murder case

1628
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:34,240
she only cares about the alien stories

1629
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:36,000
that she could sell

1630
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:38,319
great great carrie came to me with if

1631
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:39,920
well you knew about the links before you

1632
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:41,680
knew about the 23 plus links online

1633
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:42,160
anyway

1634
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:46,000
out in the public domain

1635
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,599
why won't you just have the opposing

1636
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:49,359
there in the video say look here's

1637
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:51,200
these people what you're saying no

1638
00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:52,400
actually that's not

1639
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:54,559
that's not what my job is i mean

1640
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:55,520
everyone

1641
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:57,280
does what they want to do about her job

1642
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,760
is not to report to people the facts

1643
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,520
it's just a report to people the fake

1644
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:03,599
alien stories that she wants to sell

1645
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:06,160
about these things my job is and our

1646
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:07,760
discussions are not about

1647
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:10,240
a murder for which he was framed uh over

1648
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:11,680
30 years ago

1649
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:14,640
and you know even at this time uh you

1650
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:15,200
know

1651
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:19,920
invite carrie cassidy show us the

1652
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:21,280
evidence that he was framed

1653
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:22,799
what evidence do you have that he was

1654
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:25,599
framed other than your own statement and

1655
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:25,920
his

1656
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:29,040
own belief right you know how many guys

1657
01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:31,359
that i know they're in prison that claim

1658
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:33,839
that they're innocent or were framed

1659
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:36,240
it doesn't make it true unless they have

1660
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:36,960
evidence

1661
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:40,319
was framed the law

1662
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:42,319
on the books right now saying that uh

1663
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,839
somebody should be released from

1664
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:45,839
prison if there were a supposed

1665
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,520
mastermind of a murder

1666
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:49,680
because they were not the one who did it

1667
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:52,160
and so that mark is actually

1668
01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:55,040
absolutely stay in prison for for any

1669
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:56,799
kind of involvement if you want to call

1670
01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:57,520
it that

1671
01:01:01,750 --> 01:01:00,079
in this situation but he's in my view

1672
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:01,760
he's completely innocent

1673
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:03,760
he was off the planet when the [\h__\h]

1674
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:06,319
murder happened

1675
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:08,240
and pardon me for the language do you

1676
01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,599
hear what you just said

1677
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,599
he could have murdered that guy because

1678
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:13,119
he was off the planet

1679
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:15,440
fighting aliens in space when this

1680
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,520
happened that's mark richard's story and

1681
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:19,599
he's sticking to it and so

1682
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:22,720
is carrie cassidy that's the truth if he

1683
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:23,359
was

1684
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:26,720
if that's the truth look if you don't

1685
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:27,920
understand i mean i

1686
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:30,880
i have so much evidence of of the way

1687
01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:31,280
this

1688
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:35,200
at obama's birth certificate

1689
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,470
different way of looking at reality the

1690
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:44,400
false flags the reason i ask you about

1691
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:45,520
false flags is

1692
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,280
that if you investigate fights i agree

1693
01:01:50,829 --> 01:01:49,440
with mk3 members begin to go down a

1694
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:50,839
rabbit hole which is

1695
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:53,920
unbelievable of people who are lying

1696
01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:56,559
lying about people killing being killed

1697
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,200
i mean

1698
01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:59,520
listen to my interviews james that's her

1699
01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,640
ask yourself why

1700
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:02,799
youtube doesn't want those interviews

1701
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:04,240
out there in the public

1702
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:06,480
because carrie cassidy was spreading

1703
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:08,240
medical disinformation with an

1704
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:10,480
irresponsible stupid guest that wasn't

1705
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:11,920
even a real doctor

1706
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:14,079
that's why youtube wanted them off of

1707
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:16,240
youtube that's why your channel got

1708
01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:17,280
obliterated

1709
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:19,599
because you let fake people with no

1710
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:21,280
credentials come on your show

1711
01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:25,039
and give fake information out can spirit

1712
01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:28,480
conspiracy land nonsense they've deleted

1713
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:30,319
them off my site

1714
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:33,280
he's an ex-marine he's a tenured

1715
01:02:36,549 --> 01:02:34,319
professor

1716
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:36,559
uh for zillions of years he's written

1717
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:37,760
over ten books

1718
01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:40,720
he's a heavy duty investigator a very

1719
01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:42,160
respectable man

1720
01:02:48,549 --> 01:02:45,760
and he investigates in minutia

1721
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:48,559
every false flag that has happened in

1722
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:49,760
the united states

1723
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:52,480
he's he's obsessed with it and so what

1724
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:53,760
you really have to do is

1725
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:56,720
look at the false flags start to see how

1726
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:57,920
this is her argument

1727
01:03:01,510 --> 01:03:00,000
oh i got you kevin moore you caught me

1728
01:03:04,470 --> 01:03:01,520
selling a completely totally

1729
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:04,480
fake murderer as a secret space program

1730
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:05,440
insider

1731
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:07,760
you caught me dead to rights using a

1732
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:10,640
convicted murderer as a source about

1733
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,079
space alien buck rogers fantasy stories

1734
01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,799
well kevin it's not my fault i did that

1735
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:19,039
you have to learn about false flags

1736
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:22,400
i mean this is stupid it's a stupid

1737
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:23,119
argument

1738
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:25,039
carrie cassidy one of these things is

1739
01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:26,880
not like the other

1740
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:30,160
evidence can be manufactured by the

1741
01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:30,880
secret

1742
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:33,440
government by law enforcement under

1743
01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:34,400
orders from

1744
01:03:38,950 --> 01:03:37,520
higher ups etc and disappeared etc you

1745
01:03:41,589 --> 01:03:38,960
really have to go down that road

1746
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:41,599
it's a fascinating journey and i

1747
01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:42,880
encourage you to take it

1748
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:44,960
i don't have time right now to educate

1749
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:47,520
you as to all the steps

1750
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:49,920
i don't have time to educate you kevin

1751
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:50,799
moore

1752
01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:54,799
has the facts and the evidence

1753
01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:56,880
and he she doesn't have time to educate

1754
01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:59,200
him because he's just got facts and

1755
01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:00,720
evidence and she's got

1756
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:02,720
nothing it's that's her interview which

1757
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:04,160
is no longer on youtube

1758
01:04:11,029 --> 01:04:07,440
it is now on steemit and also on

1759
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:11,039
um what is this called bit shoot

1760
01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:12,720
so if you just go to bit shoot you put

1761
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:14,559
in project camelot you should find it no

1762
01:04:18,829 --> 01:04:15,359
problem

1763
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:18,839
um you know this is the reality

1764
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:21,599
manufactured evidence okay so

1765
01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:23,599
okay you know look at pearl harbor that

1766
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:25,200
was a [\h__\h] false flag

1767
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:27,119
again i apologize for her language and

1768
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:28,799
if you don't know this stuff

1769
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:31,440
you need to get educated and by the way

1770
01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:31,920
ai

1771
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:33,839
algorithm gods i'm not saying i agree

1772
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:35,039
with that statement i

1773
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:37,280
i i don't know have not thoroughly

1774
01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:38,400
investigated

1775
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:40,160
this is kerry cassidy making these

1776
01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:41,920
statements and we're kind of making fun

1777
01:04:44,470 --> 01:04:42,640
of her

1778
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,480
lack of evidence lack of knowledge

1779
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:46,319
please find context ai

1780
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:49,599
algorithm gods in google's name we pray

1781
01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:52,960
do not strike us down amen

1782
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:55,760
all i can do is say a prayer to the ai

1783
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:57,760
topkin this was a false flag yeah all

1784
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,520
right now that one i agree with her on

1785
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:01,280
all right for once i agree with carrie

1786
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:03,200
cassidy of course there's such things as

1787
01:05:07,829 --> 01:05:05,920
false flags but her conspiracy mind sees

1788
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:07,839
everything as a false flag the

1789
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:09,440
governments knew

1790
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:12,240
they set it up yeah they staged it i

1791
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:12,720
would

1792
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:16,799
some of those cases that they were

1793
01:05:19,270 --> 01:05:17,760
staged or

1794
01:05:23,349 --> 01:05:19,280
things that happen on purpose to let

1795
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:23,359
things happen

1796
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:25,119
uh evidence that you see in front of you

1797
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:26,640
that these people think they're giving

1798
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:27,760
you and so and so

1799
01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:30,319
it doesn't it's your choice you know you

1800
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:32,079
have to rely on your intuition

1801
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:33,839
you have to rely on your ability to

1802
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:36,000
investigate and if you think that

1803
01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:37,680
i should be putting those links on my

1804
01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:39,599
website i appreciate your opinion

1805
01:05:43,510 --> 01:05:41,440
but i'm not doing it okay because i

1806
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:43,520
think it's [\h__\h] uh yeah why should

1807
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:44,160
she give

1808
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:46,720
her viewers actual facts or actual

1809
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,319
evidence when she could just tell them

1810
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:50,400
fantastical stories about reptilian

1811
01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:51,599
aliens

1812
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:53,520
and this guy who teleports out of his

1813
01:05:58,710 --> 01:05:56,079
prison cell to save earth every night

1814
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:58,720
sure carrie why put the actual evidence

1815
01:06:02,390 --> 01:05:59,680
on your website

1816
01:06:02,789 --> 01:06:02,400
that kevin moore is offering you but

1817
01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:02,799
then

1818
01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,319
know the thing that we don't know

1819
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,119
right is it was a richard a baldwin of

1820
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:11,599
36 was he did he really exist

1821
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,039
and was his life taken that's no i mean

1822
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:17,119
i died i mean we're not questioning that

1823
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:18,799
that there was a murder

1824
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:21,680
it was in the news and everything and

1825
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:22,319
that

1826
01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:25,119
was true the murder happened right so

1827
01:06:30,789 --> 01:06:26,079
who did kill

1828
01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:35,270
how

1829
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:37,750
of the mind you're talking about a man

1830
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:38,880
who didn't come

1831
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,960
with any kind of instrument show up on

1832
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:42,240
the scene or anything

1833
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:45,760
he was supposed to have masterminded

1834
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:47,680
and it was proven in a court of law that

1835
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:50,240
he welled up some 17 year old kids and

1836
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:52,319
sent him out with a baseball bat and a

1837
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:53,920
knife and other weapons

1838
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:57,599
to bludgeon and stab a man to death

1839
01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:00,880
over what over money and not very much

1840
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:02,000
of it either

1841
01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:04,000
shows what kind of person he is but

1842
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:05,520
carrie cassidy's gonna run with his

1843
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:07,440
story and her defense is

1844
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:10,240
he didn't stab the person he didn't hit

1845
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:11,119
him and

1846
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:13,200
you know bludgeon anybody to death with

1847
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:14,720
a baseball bat

1848
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:17,760
no but he manipulated children to do it

1849
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:18,480
for him

1850
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:20,400
and he was found guilty of it in a court

1851
01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:22,319
of law whether you like that or not

1852
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:22,880
kerry

1853
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:26,000
that is the truth that is a mental did

1854
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:27,440
david koresh

1855
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:31,280
mastermind whatever that was uh

1856
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:34,319
called um you know waco you know do are

1857
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:36,160
these people responsible

1858
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:38,480
if it's it's it's you know did jesus

1859
01:07:42,309 --> 01:07:40,000
persuade people of things

1860
01:07:43,589 --> 01:07:42,319
or did he verbally get you know did you

1861
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,599
record his voice

1862
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:45,440
do you did he actually write in the

1863
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:46,640
bible those words

1864
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:48,880
well we don't know any of that but but

1865
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:49,839
we're talking about

1866
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:51,680
this particular case this is what we're

1867
01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:53,359
talking about think about

1868
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:56,319
it you know you're talking about it's

1869
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:57,440
basically when you

1870
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:59,839
reduce it all down it's [\h__\h] word of

1871
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:00,880
mouth there's

1872
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:03,599
nothing that can prove it absolutely not

1873
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:04,480
i don't

1874
01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:06,160
this murder victim i can't prove

1875
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:08,000
anything i wasn't there at all

1876
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:09,920
i know what none of us were not about

1877
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,440
whether you were there i'm saying

1878
01:08:16,229 --> 01:08:14,160
what they're what he was accused of was

1879
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:16,239
masterminding a murder

1880
01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:18,480
and i'm saying to you you can read all

1881
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:20,799
the evidence you want of the murder

1882
01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:23,520
but you cannot prove that those 17 year

1883
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:24,319
olds were

1884
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:27,520
brain controlled by him who else could

1885
01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:28,719
brain control and

1886
01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:30,560
and who's but very likely to mind

1887
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,839
control people

1888
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:32,960
she's going to break she's going to

1889
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:35,600
blame the cia i know it people

1890
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,640
well hello the nazis well hello the

1891
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:40,319
people that took over mind control

1892
01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:42,319
technology from the nazis

1893
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:44,159
which is the secret government well

1894
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,080
hello he had this idea

1895
01:08:49,110 --> 01:08:48,400
wow she's blaming the nazis the secret

1896
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:49,120
government

1897
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:52,799
they did it not mark individual

1898
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:55,199
or is it the state you know you put your

1899
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:56,000
allegiance

1900
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:58,159
with the state in this conversation

1901
01:09:01,829 --> 01:08:59,279
certainly and

1902
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:01,839
you know all i'm saying to you is that's

1903
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:03,920
not my point of view i see way beyond

1904
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,239
that

1905
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:06,560
and i've got i've got proofs for so many

1906
01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:08,000
years and you know

1907
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:10,319
it's just ridiculous all i can tell you

1908
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:12,480
is look at obama's birth certificate

1909
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:15,040
and ask yourself that [\h__\h] guy was

1910
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:17,040
president of the united states

1911
01:09:20,229 --> 01:09:19,520
i apologize for her language again yeah

1912
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,239
it's it's

1913
01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:22,239
worthy of mention that kerry cassidy was

1914
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:24,159
a huge trump supporter

1915
01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:26,960
and a birther right shows where her mind

1916
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:27,279
is

1917
01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:33,600
she believes that uh you know uh i don't

1918
01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:35,759
know obama made up his birth certificate

1919
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,839
he was born in kenya not in this country

1920
01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:39,520
and this and that

1921
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,839
and the lies are just so plentiful it's

1922
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:42,960
unbelievable

1923
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,799
so you know get a grip this is the

1924
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:46,799
reality we live in uh you know i didn't

1925
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:47,520
create it

1926
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,600
but i can tell you that if you want to

1927
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:51,120
believe the evidence

1928
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,799
that this man is showing you that's

1929
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:54,880
already very much in the public domain

1930
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:55,920
and has been for

1931
01:10:01,750 --> 01:09:59,040
30 god year god knows how many years um

1932
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:01,760
you know do so it's all right if you

1933
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:03,280
want to put on your website if you want

1934
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:04,800
to put all the links for people

1935
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:06,719
you you've done an interview with me

1936
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:08,800
which is not very nice because it was

1937
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:09,600
visually

1938
01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:11,760
horrible i would prefer a nicer channel

1939
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:14,000
you know i think my information is

1940
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:16,719
clear i mean people i don't encourage

1941
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,840
people to think

1942
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,159
what i want usually i want them to think

1943
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,320
for themselves

1944
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:25,199
on the other hand please no become you

1945
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:26,719
know a worker for the state

1946
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:29,280
and post their [\h__\h] i'm not going on

1947
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:30,159
to mainstream

1948
01:10:36,149 --> 01:10:33,440
news and po post their lies i mean i'll

1949
01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:36,159
post what i feel is the closest thing to

1950
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:38,000
the truth and allow people to decide for

1951
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:38,800
themselves

1952
01:10:42,310 --> 01:10:40,640
okay so the closest thing she has to the

1953
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:42,320
truth came to her from

1954
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,800
let's see a convicted murderer a court

1955
01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:46,719
martial child molester

1956
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:49,280
uh a fraudster in the form of sean david

1957
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:49,840
morton

1958
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:51,840
and all these other people with fake

1959
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:53,520
doctorate degrees that aren't real

1960
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,320
doctors

1961
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:56,239
yeah that's where she's getting her

1962
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:58,080
truth from that she's deciding to share

1963
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:58,719
with people

1964
01:11:01,750 --> 01:11:00,480
great great they want to investigate

1965
01:11:04,229 --> 01:11:01,760
further and i curt

1966
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:04,239
i always encourage people to do that um

1967
01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:04,800
then

1968
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:07,199
so be it and that's great yeah carrie

1969
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:08,320
you invest you

1970
01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:10,000
encouraged me to investigate further

1971
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:11,600
when you ran a fake story about the

1972
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:13,440
tragic death of somebody from the ufo

1973
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:15,199
community recently and i found out that

1974
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:16,000
you were completely

1975
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:18,960
totally making up fake facts and i got

1976
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:20,560
the real facts

1977
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,239
kind of like kevin moore did in this

1978
01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:24,960
case you know it's a proven track record

1979
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,440
of you telling fake stories about aliens

1980
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:30,080
and whatever and people showing the real

1981
01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:30,640
evidence

1982
01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:32,480
and then you get pissy like you did with

1983
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:34,159
kevin here and like you did with me

1984
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:36,000
recently because now i'm a deep state

1985
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,920
asset according to carrie cassidy

1986
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,440
you want to make decisions one way or

1987
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:41,520
the other that's great too

1988
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:43,360
you want to decide whether jesus really

1989
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:44,560
walked on the earth and you want to

1990
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:45,920
investigate it

1991
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:49,120
do so you know investigate whatever you

1992
01:11:54,030 --> 01:11:50,159
like

1993
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:54,040
my my point here is that the state

1994
01:11:57,430 --> 01:11:56,400
manufactures evidence like you would not

1995
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:57,440
believe

1996
01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:58,960
and i've been doing this for 12 and a

1997
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:00,480
half years maybe ever

1998
01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:03,040
become more certain of this rather than

1999
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:04,159
less

2000
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:07,679
yeah and i i i make your own decision

2001
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:10,239
i i don't i don't know i don't disagree

2002
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:11,840
with you that the state does manufacture

2003
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:13,600
uh [\h__\h] absolutely

2004
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:16,400
but um i don't know maybe it's my

2005
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:17,440
intuition maybe that's

2006
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:19,040
that that's alarming here but you know

2007
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:21,040
he did talk about he wanted um to

2008
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:22,480
isolate

2009
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:24,960
a part of marine county and transform it

2010
01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:25,679
into the

2011
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:28,719
know

2012
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:32,800
benign to me what's the model of camelot

2013
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:33,920
i mean you know what

2014
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:36,159
kennedy and jackie were known for for

2015
01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:38,159
returning the return to camelot

2016
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:39,600
well now she's going to make these

2017
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,440
ridiculous claims that she's like

2018
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:43,360
from the bloodline of camelot or

2019
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:44,480
gwenevere

2020
01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,960
and bill ryan is from the bloodline of

2021
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:48,159
king arthur

2022
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:50,480
oh it's priceless yeah so what are you

2023
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:51,760
going to do about that

2024
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:56,640
so so so of something too well

2025
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,600
well no they've not murdered anyone yeah

2026
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:01,440
what do you want to accuse me of

2027
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:03,920
i i i as far as you know people could

2028
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,760
say i'm [\h__\h] crazy

2029
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:07,199
i think i'm the reincarnation of

2030
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:08,719
gwynevere what are you going to do about

2031
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,120
that

2032
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:12,239
i sound [\h__\h] crazy yes you do honey

2033
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,120
and bill ryan

2034
01:13:16,149 --> 01:13:15,120
and i apologize for her language comes

2035
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:16,159
from the arthur

2036
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:18,159
arthurian bloodline according to

2037
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:19,840
illuminati

2038
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,480
that we've got proof of that okay she's

2039
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:24,560
got proof that the illuminati say that

2040
01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:25,520
bill ryan

2041
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:28,480
comes from the bloodline of king arthur

2042
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,440
wow

2043
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:31,280
you know he's o negative what do you

2044
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:32,560
want to do with that

2045
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:34,000
i'm going to say we're crazy a lot of

2046
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:35,679
people are oh negative i can't stand

2047
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:37,040
people that use that as some kind of

2048
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:38,719
proof that they're alien hybrids or

2049
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:39,840
they're special

2050
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:41,520
you're not special you just have a rare

2051
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:44,159
blood type and it's not even that rare

2052
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,760
considering the population of the planet

2053
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:47,440
that has that blood type kerry

2054
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:49,440
is he is he really a descendant of the

2055
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:51,280
arthurian brother bloodline he's been

2056
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:53,360
told by several psychics he is

2057
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:55,440
you know that's my intuitive take he

2058
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,640
doesn't claim it

2059
01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:58,880
okay so psychic said he was so it must

2060
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:00,480
be true that's her proof that's her

2061
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:02,400
evidence some psychics said it it must

2062
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:03,040
be true

2063
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:04,880
he doesn't even like hearing that but

2064
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,080
he's he's not

2065
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:08,239
when you look at this stuff it sounds

2066
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:09,280
outlandish

2067
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:11,840
it sounds like we're all [\h__\h] crazy

2068
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:12,960
and if you want to come to that

2069
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:16,000
conclusion you're very welcome to do so

2070
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:17,840
oh i mean listen i've done a documentary

2071
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:19,440
on channeling i mean i'll be the first

2072
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:20,080
to to

2073
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:21,679
just to say all that you know what i

2074
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:23,440
mean uh abs absolutely

2075
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:26,560
so i mean you know i'm sorry but but but

2076
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:27,120
i

2077
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,120
background of

2078
01:14:34,390 --> 01:14:33,199
you know anything bad in my in my in my

2079
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:34,400
background i haven't been arrested for

2080
01:14:37,510 --> 01:14:35,520
anything and nor

2081
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:37,520
nor have i have i ever been done for

2082
01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:38,560
murder that that's

2083
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:42,080
that yeah hey kerry i never murdered

2084
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:43,199
anybody though

2085
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:45,679
okay that's the difference let's see

2086
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,520
what she says now

2087
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,159
well i mean you know within reason

2088
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:51,840
people cannot be accused of anything in

2089
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:52,960
frame for anything

2090
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:55,040
it's and it's astonishing the number of

2091
01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:56,880
people who have so-called

2092
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:59,040
uh suicided themselves shooting

2093
01:15:02,870 --> 01:15:00,640
themselves in the head several times you

2094
01:15:05,590 --> 01:15:02,880
know that's a physical impossibility

2095
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:05,600
yeah i mean these things absolutely and

2096
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:07,440
i would agree with you

2097
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:11,600
with what you're saying where do you

2098
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:12,560
draw the line

2099
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:14,880
seriously well that's the thing just

2100
01:15:19,189 --> 01:15:16,159
look at the evidence

2101
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:19,199
if it resonates with you you know kevin

2102
01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:21,600
you know i can't i'm going to check in

2103
01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:22,640
uh with our

2104
01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:25,040
analytics here because i think that i

2105
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:26,960
missed a super chat

2106
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:29,600
and i we call out every single super

2107
01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:30,640
chat

2108
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:32,640
that we get here and i don't ever want

2109
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:34,560
to miss one so i apologize if i did

2110
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:35,920
i'm going to check in with that just to

2111
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:38,000
make sure yeah rogue status

2112
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:40,480
with the kind and generous uh super chat

2113
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:42,239
donation of five dollars thank you rogue

2114
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:43,120
status

2115
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:44,880
fellow philadelphia and someday i'm

2116
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:46,239
going to have you come and visit here

2117
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:48,239
rogue status maybe you should come and

2118
01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:49,679
uh co-host the show

2119
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:52,239
with me that would be fun uh thank you

2120
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:53,920
for your kindness your generosity and

2121
01:16:02,550 --> 01:15:56,000
your support and one other second will i

2122
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:05,990
one second

2123
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:09,120
i i gotta learn to shut off uh certain

2124
01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:09,760
message

2125
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,239
apps during a show because i think it's

2126
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:14,480
something important

2127
01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:21,510
yeah and it's not so uh

2128
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:23,440
one second probably can't think of all i

2129
01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:25,040
can tell you is

2130
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:27,120
you know i've gone down that rabbit hole

2131
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:28,480
i've made my decision

2132
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:31,440
and i've done my interviews if you want

2133
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:32,159
to believe

2134
01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:34,719
that that this stuff is is not true and

2135
01:16:40,870 --> 01:16:37,199
and you want to put out the other side

2136
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:40,880
you know go right ahead it's fine

2137
01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:48,149
he's getting tongue tied because she

2138
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,239
just keeps making excuses and he's

2139
01:16:55,030 --> 01:16:52,640
trying to explain his point which is you

2140
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:55,040
can't use a convicted murderer as a

2141
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:55,920
source

2142
01:17:02,470 --> 01:16:59,280
but she is i'm not looking at um

2143
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,480
creating something that's that that's

2144
01:17:06,229 --> 01:17:04,640
damaging or hurtful towards anyone i'm

2145
01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:06,239
just saying have we considered this

2146
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,280
that's my point

2147
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:09,520
that's only my point i know but i you

2148
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:10,719
know quite frankly i'm going to

2149
01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:11,679
appreciate your

2150
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:16,080
of active conscience if you want to call

2151
01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:17,600
it that where you're calling me because

2152
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:19,040
you think you came across thank you for

2153
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:20,480
kindness your generosity and your

2154
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:21,440
support of the show

2155
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:23,840
we truly do appreciate it thank you very

2156
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:24,880
much

2157
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,199
uh you have my gratitude i have an

2158
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:28,800
attitude of gratitude about everybody

2159
01:17:32,470 --> 01:17:30,000
that's helping me to continue

2160
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:32,480
to make this show possible every dollar

2161
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:33,360
does help

2162
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,440
there's links in the about section or in

2163
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:37,120
the description of the video for how you

2164
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,719
can support us thank you very much

2165
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,560
insurance long time supporter of the

2166
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:42,960
show who is continuing to support the

2167
01:17:47,189 --> 01:17:44,000
show and i'm happy to see

2168
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:47,199
that i'm glad that you still like me

2169
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,320
across something that that i haven't but

2170
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:52,000
as it happens you haven't

2171
01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:54,400
okay now uh had this person had

2172
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:56,719
something to add to this beyond sending

2173
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,320
you to links um

2174
01:18:01,510 --> 01:18:00,640
you know uh then i would listen but i i

2175
01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:01,520
probably you know

2176
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,520
i can't he could easily be working for

2177
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:06,000
this state

2178
01:18:10,709 --> 01:18:08,719
you heard here first friends geoff from

2179
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:10,719
paradise california is working for the

2180
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:11,440
deep state

2181
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:13,360
that's what that's what it is easily

2182
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:15,280
it's absolutely mind-boggling

2183
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:16,560
on the other hand he could just be

2184
01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:18,080
somebody who's emotionally involved in

2185
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:19,600
things he i think he was impressed i

2186
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:20,080
think

2187
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:22,960
because he knew that he knew the young

2188
01:18:26,550 --> 01:18:23,440
man

2189
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:26,560
i think that yeah fine you know have you

2190
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:27,199
ever

2191
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:30,960
emotionally involved

2192
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:33,760
the clue clicks clan gets when they go

2193
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:35,440
after somebody in the south

2194
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:38,080
i mean you know seriously all i can tell

2195
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:38,719
you is

2196
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:41,280
uh you know why is she even talking

2197
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:42,880
about the ku klux klan what does that

2198
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:44,560
have to do with anything is she trying

2199
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:45,760
to describe the

2200
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,880
you know i don't know this stuff

2201
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:50,880
i mean you know but what can i ask you

2202
01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:53,440
one final thing what if in the future

2203
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:55,760
the the family members were found you

2204
01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:56,480
know and

2205
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:58,000
and the detectives and everything and

2206
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:59,440
they actually say listen that was my

2207
01:19:01,830 --> 01:19:00,880
uncle that wasn't but that was my

2208
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:01,840
ex-husband

2209
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:04,400
and this that that really nobody's

2210
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:06,640
denying that there are family members of

2211
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:08,480
the individuals that are alive today

2212
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:11,840
nobody's denying that those people exist

2213
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:13,360
but then what you're saying is that

2214
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,880
richard was off planet and he had

2215
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:16,400
nothing to do with it

2216
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:20,000
basically yeah yeah he couldn't have

2217
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:22,320
taken part in a murder he was on another

2218
01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:23,600
planet at the time

2219
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:26,960
i i want to see him bring that defense

2220
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,719
in front of a judge in a jury

2221
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:30,800
considering he didn't actually do the

2222
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:31,760
murder

2223
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,480
it's perfectly in keeping for him maybe

2224
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,800
he was you know

2225
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:38,880
i don't know in in antarctica for all we

2226
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:40,080
know i mean you know

2227
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:42,159
really yeah he was at a secret base in

2228
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:43,199
antarctica sure

2229
01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:45,760
sure carrie where does his if he was the

2230
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:47,520
supposed mastermind

2231
01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:49,280
he all of that would have taken place

2232
01:19:52,390 --> 01:19:50,800
before they did the act

2233
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:52,400
right he was also the day of the murder

2234
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:53,600
he could have been anywhere on the

2235
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:55,120
planet or off the planet

2236
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:56,560
it doesn't he could have been under the

2237
01:20:01,990 --> 01:19:58,239
ocean it doesn't matter

2238
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:02,000
he was supposedly the mental you know um

2239
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:14,709
what would you feel then in the future

2240
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:16,719
that he's fooled you i mean what if just

2241
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:17,199
what if

2242
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:18,880
i'm not worried about it let's let's

2243
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:20,800
just put it that way i made my decision

2244
01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:22,480
it's like a lot of decisions you make in

2245
01:20:24,629 --> 01:20:23,040
life

2246
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:24,639
you make them you lay your bets where

2247
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:26,960
you will you know my whole career is

2248
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,120
based on people like this he's not the

2249
01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:31,360
only person

2250
01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:33,440
she just admitted that her whole career

2251
01:20:35,830 --> 01:20:35,199
is based on people like this mark

2252
01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:35,840
richards

2253
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:38,400
a murderer which is somewhat true

2254
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:39,840
because for some reason

2255
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:41,760
a lot of carrie cassidy sources

2256
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:44,080
especially about alien stories

2257
01:20:49,110 --> 01:20:47,199
stories are criminals are actual

2258
01:20:51,270 --> 01:20:49,120
convicted criminals

2259
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:51,280
and that could be a wallet no true true

2260
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:53,120
i've got so many whistleblowers some of

2261
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:53,520
you know

2262
01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:55,280
in front of the camera some who never

2263
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:56,800
did come in front of the

2264
01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:59,440
camera and you know i mean you really

2265
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:00,000
it's it's

2266
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:04,239
platter the truth

2267
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:06,960
it's it's a it's it's a wall you know

2268
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:11,110
you know there's going to be people that

2269
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:12,719
want to convince you one way or the

2270
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:13,280
other

2271
01:21:16,950 --> 01:21:15,360
and it can all you know you must have

2272
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:16,960
seen book read

2273
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:19,840
watch movies seen books where it's just

2274
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:20,159
you

2275
01:21:27,189 --> 01:21:24,719
completely reverses itself

2276
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:27,199
the name of the game you must make your

2277
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:28,239
own decisions

2278
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:30,400
and i you know and and basically i can't

2279
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,679
help you but more than

2280
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:33,760
you know i do what i do he's a criminal

2281
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:34,800
um you can

2282
01:21:39,669 --> 01:21:37,840
evaluate the information he puts out uh

2283
01:21:41,189 --> 01:21:39,679
there has been a guy if you want to talk

2284
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:41,199
to him i don't know if you saw my

2285
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:42,880
interview with him his name is julian

2286
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:43,360
salt

2287
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:45,600
i believe that's his name uh i met with

2288
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:47,679
him here in britain he is a brit

2289
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:50,080
uh he investigated a lot of mark's

2290
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:50,880
claims

2291
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:53,520
literally one by one and uh found they

2292
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,800
were all correct

2293
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:57,040
so you you can go talk to that person

2294
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,080
for example if you

2295
01:22:01,669 --> 01:22:00,320
are really in a state how do you

2296
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:01,679
investigate this guy

2297
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:03,920
claiming that he teleports out of his

2298
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:06,320
jail cell do you hear her statement

2299
01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:08,239
well i know an investigator that

2300
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:09,840
investigated mark's claims and found

2301
01:22:13,430 --> 01:22:11,280
them to be all correct

2302
01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:13,440
here's a guy who's been in prison for 35

2303
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:14,719
years claiming that

2304
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:17,440
aliens or some secret galactic council

2305
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:19,199
are teleporting out of his jail

2306
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:22,000
teleporting him out of his jail cell so

2307
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:22,880
that he could go

2308
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:25,040
fight in the secret space wars against

2309
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:26,719
the reptilian aliens

2310
01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:29,920
how are you verifying that as being real

2311
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:31,920
carrie how is any investigator supposed

2312
01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:33,760
to verify that as being real

2313
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:35,679
but she makes these statements trying to

2314
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:36,880
prove her point

2315
01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:39,199
like i got the goods yeah this is

2316
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:40,560
definitely true

2317
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:43,840
okay for this situation um there's

2318
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:46,000
ways to investigate you know by the way

2319
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,920
she didn't give the investigator's name

2320
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:48,639
or anything

2321
01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:50,800
she's just you know saying it doesn't

2322
01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:51,840
make it just

2323
01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:54,159
could be a you know one of her imaginary

2324
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:55,520
friends for all we know

2325
01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:58,800
both sides of the question well that's

2326
01:23:02,310 --> 01:22:59,840
something that i've got to

2327
01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:02,320
consider yeah i i don't i mean i'm just

2328
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:03,280
like well

2329
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:04,560
you know i think i think there's i think

2330
01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:06,000
there's truth out that this is my take

2331
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:07,040
on it right now

2332
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:08,639
especially after being at contact in the

2333
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:10,239
desert an alien con there's truth out

2334
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:11,679
there yeah you know contact in the

2335
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:13,600
desert is a [\h__\h] can of worms

2336
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:15,440
a lot of those people are mind control

2337
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,199
they're lying through their teeth

2338
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:19,520
they're not being honest uh and i can

2339
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,040
tell i can go right down the list of

2340
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:22,800
speakers and tell and a hallmark of a

2341
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:24,800
good ufo con artist is

2342
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:27,120
oh those other guys are telling fairy

2343
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:28,719
tales and tall tales

2344
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:31,280
and fake stories but not me i'm a

2345
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:32,719
credible researcher

2346
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:35,760
yeah sure i would not i was i mean

2347
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,840
you know yeah if you're using that as a

2348
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:39,360
reference no no

2349
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:42,000
no i'm just logical thought no i i'm

2350
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:42,400
sorry

2351
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:44,560
no i would i gotta say what a nice guy

2352
01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:46,719
kevin moore is because listen to her

2353
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:49,120
talk him down say that she doesn't have

2354
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:51,440
time to educate him she's talking to him

2355
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:54,239
like like he's some you know petulant

2356
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:54,719
school

2357
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,440
child and she's the high and mighty

2358
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:59,040
teacher that knows everything or

2359
01:24:01,270 --> 01:24:00,960
something and he is handling it very

2360
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:01,280
well

2361
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:04,080
i would i wouldn't have handled this

2362
01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:05,920
that well

2363
01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:07,520
i would have been screaming at her by

2364
01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:09,760
now but to his credit kevin moore's

2365
01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:11,840
keeping his calm and his composure

2366
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:13,600
and he's being very polite to her in the

2367
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:15,199
face of all these insults she keeps

2368
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:16,560
flinging his way

2369
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:18,400
i i was going to say to you that that

2370
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:20,239
going to these places there's about 20

2371
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:21,600
percent of truth

2372
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:24,719
if that the if that and 80 bollocks

2373
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:28,000
if that 20 is true um

2374
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:30,719
yeah um i i i think there's so much

2375
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:33,120
disinformation in the ufo field

2376
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:35,760
so much it's it's it's ripped apart by

2377
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:37,120
disinformation i think he's waiting till

2378
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:39,760
we're done listening to this

2379
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:42,400
what's funny um i just did an interview

2380
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:42,800
uh

2381
01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:44,800
or they did an interview with me here in

2382
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:46,480
in england with this woman who

2383
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:49,440
her name is carolyn stevens she was a

2384
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:51,199
campaigner for brexit

2385
01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:53,920
uh she comes from a completely different

2386
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:55,760
walk of life than i do

2387
01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:58,719
uh we did it live with miles it's on my

2388
01:25:01,830 --> 01:25:00,639
website it's on my youtube channel it's

2389
01:25:04,390 --> 01:25:01,840
the first interview the

2390
01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:04,400
most recent one uh you know you can you

2391
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:07,440
can watch it you can see how our world

2392
01:25:13,510 --> 01:25:10,480
completely opposite worlds come together

2393
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:13,520
and what we find what we both find is

2394
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:16,800
lies like you would not believe coming

2395
01:25:19,870 --> 01:25:17,520
from

2396
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,880
the top echelons of so-called

2397
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:21,199
respectability

2398
01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:23,679
and power and so if you want to say

2399
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:26,400
ufology is full fill of lies

2400
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:29,440
i have to say take a look at your mps

2401
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:31,199
take a look do you know she she gave me

2402
01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:34,080
a statistic it was something like 162

2403
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:36,719
mps have all been convicted sex

2404
01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:37,600
offenders

2405
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:39,920
well i don't i don't i don't listen to

2406
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:41,360
her she really doesn't like sex

2407
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:43,360
offenders but she's okay with using sex

2408
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:44,159
offenders

2409
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:46,000
when they're telling her alien stories

2410
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:47,280
that she could sell

2411
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:49,520
i don't know if that's true i'll be

2412
01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:50,320
careful

2413
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:52,639
it's in your press yeah i don't know if

2414
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:54,560
that's true now look no look it up

2415
01:25:59,669 --> 01:25:56,960
because that's a statistic you can check

2416
01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:59,679
yeah i don't think they are they aren't

2417
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:01,120
and she's not lying

2418
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:03,120
so you know she ran for office she ran

2419
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:04,880
to become an mp herself

2420
01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:06,480
she's completely lodged in the

2421
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:08,639
mainstream uh you know and

2422
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:11,040
and her stuff is all out there so all

2423
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:12,080
i'm saying to you

2424
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:15,280
is you know you want to accuse ufology

2425
01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:16,000
of lies

2426
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:37,830
into religion uh then then you're really

2427
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:38,639
overwhelmed i'm not

2428
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,040
i'm not i'm not targeting ufology it's

2429
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,719
just a field that i had a bit of an

2430
01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:44,719
appreciation that was in

2431
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:46,800
with the talk show that i was doing and

2432
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:48,719
and that that's why i'm mentioning it

2433
01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:50,800
and going going and seeing these things

2434
01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:52,639
in person you realize just how much crap

2435
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:54,320
there is out there and it's difficult to

2436
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:55,679
tell the crap from the good stuff

2437
01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:57,760
very difficult for people absolutely and

2438
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:59,120
i don't think it's i'll disagree with

2439
01:27:01,990 --> 01:27:00,320
kevin moore i don't think it's that

2440
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:02,000
difficult you just do some fact checking

2441
01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:03,440
when people start talking

2442
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:05,360
and it becomes very evident who's

2443
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:07,040
telling fairy tales and who's got some

2444
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:08,480
real information that's worthy of

2445
01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:09,280
listening to

2446
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:12,719
yeah and you know people are constantly

2447
01:27:17,350 --> 01:27:14,560
accusing me of all kinds of things

2448
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:17,360
it's it's unbelievable um look it what

2449
01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:18,159
can i tell you

2450
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:20,080
you know okay our conversation is done

2451
01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:21,920
here no no nothing you you

2452
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:24,480
you you've got you're happy where you're

2453
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:25,040
at

2454
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,400
and i've just discovered this a few

2455
01:27:30,390 --> 01:27:28,080
weeks ago and it's just it just

2456
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:30,400
shocked shook my shift my world a little

2457
01:27:32,790 --> 01:27:31,199
bit that

2458
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:32,800
something as big as that mark richard's

2459
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:34,239
story might not be

2460
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,239
what it seems to be on the front and

2461
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:38,000
that that's a difficult one to swallow

2462
01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:39,040
when you didn't know anything about the

2463
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:40,159
backstory

2464
01:27:43,590 --> 01:27:42,239
but um and i can see why you kept the

2465
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:43,600
back story out of there so yeah no

2466
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:50,790
i guess it wobbles your world a little

2467
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:52,400
bit when you know that actually you know

2468
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:53,520
you know what

2469
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:55,840
this guy's got mental health issues in

2470
01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:56,719
the past

2471
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:58,719
so why why why why are those mental

2472
01:28:01,350 --> 01:28:00,320
health issues not there now that's the

2473
01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:01,360
problem

2474
01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:04,800
so um yeah that's you know that's an

2475
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:05,679
assumption

2476
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:08,880
it is it is it be i know only based on

2477
01:28:12,550 --> 01:28:11,120
on the court cases as well you know but

2478
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:12,560
i think i think some of the things he

2479
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:14,320
mentions and talks about that i think

2480
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:15,760
when i interviewed joanna about

2481
01:28:19,510 --> 01:28:17,840
years ago i mean many moons ago i just

2482
01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:19,520
thought god this is so far fetched some

2483
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:20,719
of this stuff

2484
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,320
you know what what is true in some of

2485
01:28:26,629 --> 01:28:24,880
this stuff this is is it is it

2486
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:26,639
because the one thing contact in the

2487
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,080
desert taught me is that when you get

2488
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:30,239
out of that context

2489
01:28:34,229 --> 01:28:33,040
right now i'm happy about that no one

2490
01:28:36,229 --> 01:28:34,239
knows about these things

2491
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:36,239
scotland america portugal spain canada

2492
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:37,600
mexico and jerusalem

2493
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:39,520
and probably australia such a small

2494
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:41,040
community uh yeah well

2495
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,760
all i can tell you is uh you can talk to

2496
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:44,960
joe

2497
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:47,199
actually you can sign up to visit mark

2498
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:48,639
in prison if you want to talk to the

2499
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:50,080
real man if you really think you're

2500
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:51,520
going to investigate something

2501
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:53,840
you should go to the source right so and

2502
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:55,600
you should evaluate his personality

2503
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:56,000
based

2504
01:29:00,149 --> 01:28:58,639
on that you know i wish i had a camera

2505
01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:00,159
when i was interviewing him

2506
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:02,320
you really have to decide if you think

2507
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:04,560
this man has mental issues

2508
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:06,000
you know you don't know what the hell

2509
01:29:08,830 --> 01:29:07,600
you're worried about that's all i can

2510
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:08,840
tell you

2511
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:12,080
right yeah because nobody with mental

2512
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,120
issues you know

2513
01:29:16,629 --> 01:29:15,280
murders people right it's yeah he

2514
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:16,639
doesn't have any mental issues well

2515
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:16,960
maybe

2516
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:19,040
so believe that court documents if you

2517
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:20,560
will uh but

2518
01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:23,120
you know what what what we find is

2519
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:23,760
courts

2520
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:26,719
are full of lies judges are lies they're

2521
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:27,600
pedophil

2522
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:29,440
files they're everywhere what is her

2523
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:31,360
fascination with pedophiles she is

2524
01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:33,760
obsessed with pedophiles pedophile rings

2525
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:35,760
the mold children

2526
01:29:40,229 --> 01:29:38,639
right sex offenders but yet she'll use

2527
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,239
sex offenders if they're telling her

2528
01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:42,159
alien stories that she could sell

2529
01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:44,480
under the sun the last thing they are is

2530
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:45,440
honest

2531
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:48,320
you know and our our legal system is

2532
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:49,199
rife with

2533
01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:51,440
with people that are in prison who

2534
01:29:55,830 --> 01:29:53,840
didn't do anything wrong

2535
01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:55,840
and so and some of those cases some of

2536
01:30:02,310 --> 01:29:59,040
those cases actually do exist

2537
01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:02,320
i'm a rocket guy this

2538
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:04,560
is you know it's a can of worms but you

2539
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:05,360
know i

2540
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:08,400
think

2541
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:10,000
you understand where i'm coming from i

2542
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:11,520
totally do uh i

2543
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:15,199
i don't even feel necessary to defend my

2544
01:30:18,629 --> 01:30:15,840
side

2545
01:30:19,830 --> 01:30:18,639
i do what i do um you know you have to

2546
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:19,840
pick and choose

2547
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:21,760
your battles so to speak you have to

2548
01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:23,120
pick and choose the things you're going

2549
01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:24,080
to investigate

2550
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:26,960
i investigate the secret space program

2551
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:27,520
you know

2552
01:30:33,270 --> 01:30:30,960
the illuminati and so on what i don't do

2553
01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:33,280
is i don't go it back into the past and

2554
01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:34,080
spend my time

2555
01:30:39,590 --> 01:30:37,199
investigating murder cases uh that

2556
01:30:41,669 --> 01:30:39,600
people are accused of yeah why should

2557
01:30:43,350 --> 01:30:41,679
she investigate the murder case this guy

2558
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:43,360
is accused of if she could spend her

2559
01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:43,679
time

2560
01:30:48,149 --> 01:30:46,000
selling his alien stories that makes

2561
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:48,159
sense masterminding at the moment

2562
01:30:53,350 --> 01:30:51,040
uh and i i had to make my evaluation a

2563
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:53,360
long time ago actually because i did it

2564
01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:55,600
actually before camelot

2565
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:57,760
i came across i investigated the case i

2566
01:31:01,350 --> 01:30:59,360
read about the

2567
01:31:03,350 --> 01:31:01,360
case it's actually a very distasteful

2568
01:31:04,870 --> 01:31:03,360
case but there's plenty of information

2569
01:31:06,950 --> 01:31:04,880
out above about it

2570
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:06,960
and the two young men who were involved

2571
01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:08,000
in it who

2572
01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:09,760
you know were were really demented in

2573
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:11,600
their heads you know this is

2574
01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:13,520
you have to deal with that once i think

2575
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:15,040
once they freed i think

2576
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,719
hoover i think cosson whatever his name

2577
01:31:20,229 --> 01:31:18,639
is yeah because he admitted what he did

2578
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:20,239
and showed remorse and he got out on

2579
01:31:22,470 --> 01:31:20,800
parole

2580
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:22,480
unlike mark richards who claims that he

2581
01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:24,080
was on another planet when the murder

2582
01:31:27,430 --> 01:31:25,760
took place so he couldn't have done it

2583
01:31:30,149 --> 01:31:27,440
or had any involvement in it

2584
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:30,159
sure mark richards sure carrie cassidy

2585
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:31,920
he's been freed now i think

2586
01:31:36,550 --> 01:31:35,840
i think he has yeah isn't isn't politics

2587
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:36,560
lovely

2588
01:31:39,910 --> 01:31:39,440
you know it's it's always the way yeah

2589
01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:39,920
so

2590
01:31:43,669 --> 01:31:42,880
um okay right well i'll let you know

2591
01:31:48,149 --> 01:31:43,679
what i'm going to do

2592
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:48,159
and um i mean maybe i don't know

2593
01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:50,080
i know i never went to him this guy came

2594
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:51,760
to me it wasn't like i was even

2595
01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:52,960
looking at this but it was just

2596
01:31:56,950 --> 01:31:55,360
interesting yeah i get it you know

2597
01:31:58,470 --> 01:31:56,960
i mean you don't have to let me know

2598
01:31:59,430 --> 01:31:58,480
what you're going to do just do whatever

2599
01:32:01,910 --> 01:31:59,440
you do it doesn't

2600
01:32:02,870 --> 01:32:01,920
matter to me you know to be honest i

2601
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:02,880
mean it really doesn't

2602
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:04,960
definitely i mean you can do what you do

2603
01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:07,199
you're an independent agent and uh

2604
01:32:11,270 --> 01:32:09,520
if you want to let joanne know that you

2605
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:11,280
know as a journalist you're going to do

2606
01:32:16,149 --> 01:32:12,480
something you know

2607
01:32:17,990 --> 01:32:16,159
whatever that's fine too

2608
01:32:19,350 --> 01:32:18,000
or if you don't you need her email

2609
01:32:21,350 --> 01:32:19,360
address i'll send it to you

2610
01:32:23,030 --> 01:32:21,360
but that's you know i mean it's it's

2611
01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:23,040
really neither here nor there what

2612
01:32:26,709 --> 01:32:24,400
you've said to me

2613
01:32:28,470 --> 01:32:26,719
in this conversation because it's not

2614
01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:28,480
anything i'm not aware of

2615
01:32:32,950 --> 01:32:30,960
and have dealt with not just to do with

2616
01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:32,960
this case but so many others

2617
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:36,800
it's unbelievable okay

2618
01:32:43,510 --> 01:32:40,480
all right all right all right so

2619
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:43,520
let you take care and um you know it

2620
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:45,120
will talk again in the future

2621
01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:47,520
yeah maybe we will okay thanks for your

2622
01:32:52,229 --> 01:32:49,280
time kerry

2623
01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:52,239
all right all right bye-bye oh this was

2624
01:32:55,110 --> 01:32:53,120
gold friends

2625
01:32:56,790 --> 01:32:55,120
this was gold so you've just heard that

2626
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:56,800
the conversation

2627
01:33:04,629 --> 01:33:00,560
we've had with kerry cassidy um

2628
01:33:06,629 --> 01:33:04,639
and as you can tell in that conversation

2629
01:33:08,470 --> 01:33:06,639
she doesn't care about discernment she

2630
01:33:09,990 --> 01:33:08,480
doesn't care that

2631
01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:10,000
there's bad links to the story she

2632
01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:11,920
believes that this man was set up and

2633
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:13,120
framed for the murder

2634
01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:15,280
and that all the court case was was put

2635
01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:16,800
in by the deep state

2636
01:33:23,430 --> 01:33:19,920
and that really you know uh

2637
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:23,440
this man is who he says he is um

2638
01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:25,280
but of course he's not because as soon

2639
01:33:29,590 --> 01:33:27,440
as i started investigating the case i

2640
01:33:31,270 --> 01:33:29,600
the next day off back home conversation

2641
01:33:33,990 --> 01:33:31,280
i said a text carrier and i said

2642
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:34,000
there's a documentary here we've got a

2643
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:34,560
murder

2644
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:37,440
oh too bad for carrie cassidy that kevin

2645
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:39,520
moore who is an excellent researcher

2646
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:42,000
is going to make an entire documentary

2647
01:33:46,629 --> 01:33:43,600
proving what [\h__\h]

2648
01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:46,639
mark richards is and make kerry cassidy

2649
01:33:53,189 --> 01:33:50,000
look stupid for running around peddling

2650
01:33:54,550 --> 01:33:53,199
his fake alien space soldier stories for

2651
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:54,560
years

2652
01:33:57,669 --> 01:33:57,360
we've got ufology and and we've got you

2653
01:33:59,750 --> 01:33:57,679
know

2654
01:34:01,430 --> 01:33:59,760
the secret space program as well all in

2655
01:34:03,669 --> 01:34:01,440
one i mean that's just you know

2656
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:03,679
insane to have that so then i turned to

2657
01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:05,360
jeff and i and i said to him look

2658
01:34:09,270 --> 01:34:07,840
this uh interview that we did together

2659
01:34:10,709 --> 01:34:09,280
is it going to happen he was a bit upset

2660
01:34:13,669 --> 01:34:10,719
about it but then i said

2661
01:34:14,470 --> 01:34:13,679
let's do a documentary and from there we

2662
01:34:16,629 --> 01:34:14,480
started

2663
01:34:17,830 --> 01:34:16,639
making a doc well i i did the research

2664
01:34:19,510 --> 01:34:17,840
jeff would just

2665
01:34:20,629 --> 01:34:19,520
listen back to all the evidence that was

2666
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:20,639
collected i recorded all of my

2667
01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:22,080
conversations with everyone

2668
01:34:24,709 --> 01:34:23,360
some of them i shouldn't have done that

2669
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:24,719
but it was for research it wasn't

2670
01:34:29,189 --> 01:34:27,120
supposed to be distributed anywhere else

2671
01:34:31,510 --> 01:34:29,199
just for this project yeah and by the

2672
01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:31,520
way recording calls is something that uh

2673
01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:34,480
is it is a valuable tool especially in

2674
01:34:37,830 --> 01:34:36,560
one party consent states what does that

2675
01:34:39,510 --> 01:34:37,840
mean that means if i'm

2676
01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:39,520
investigating something and i'm calling

2677
01:34:43,590 --> 01:34:41,840
somebody in a one-party consent state

2678
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:43,600
that means only i have to consent to the

2679
01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:45,440
recording i'm recording it

2680
01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:47,440
so that i have it so that i can refer

2681
01:34:52,310 --> 01:34:48,800
back to it

2682
01:34:55,430 --> 01:34:52,320
and um i then went to

2683
01:34:57,669 --> 01:34:55,440
marin county in i want to say september

2684
01:35:01,030 --> 01:34:57,679
last year and started the first half

2685
01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:01,040
of the taping i got back

2686
01:35:04,629 --> 01:35:03,440
and i realized i'd you know missed out

2687
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:04,639
quite a bit of stuff and

2688
01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:06,480
i've come back now to to refilm that

2689
01:35:09,430 --> 01:35:08,000
stuff and there's so much in between

2690
01:35:12,629 --> 01:35:09,440
that we could talk about

2691
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:12,639
but none of this is true um

2692
01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:15,600
captain mark richards is not a captain i

2693
01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:18,159
even went down to the smithsonian museum

2694
01:35:21,750 --> 01:35:20,639
in washington and his wife joanne has

2695
01:35:23,270 --> 01:35:21,760
laid a plaque there

2696
01:35:25,350 --> 01:35:23,280
with a number of other plaques where

2697
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:25,360
he's got his father major

2698
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:28,400
um the major ellis richards who was in

2699
01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:29,520
the air force

2700
01:35:32,390 --> 01:35:31,520
and then under underneath him or above

2701
01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:32,400
him which this would be in the

2702
01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:33,280
documentary

2703
01:35:36,629 --> 01:35:35,440
there's captain mark richards yeah he

2704
01:35:41,270 --> 01:35:36,639
was never a captain

2705
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:41,280
or in the military apparently and um

2706
01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:42,880
you know everything that this man is

2707
01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:45,040
doing all the writings that he's doing

2708
01:35:48,709 --> 01:35:47,040
it's so cleverly set up i mean he's got

2709
01:35:50,390 --> 01:35:48,719
a publishing company set up by his wife

2710
01:35:52,070 --> 01:35:50,400
so we've got direct access to sending

2711
01:35:54,229 --> 01:35:52,080
all the publications he wants

2712
01:35:56,149 --> 01:35:54,239
to make these reports he never puts his

2713
01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:56,159
names on the reports it's always hands

2714
01:35:59,109 --> 01:35:57,440
off kerry goes there

2715
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:59,119
but he could soon turn around and say i

2716
01:36:01,590 --> 01:36:00,480
never said those things i said to kerry

2717
01:36:02,390 --> 01:36:01,600
that she's put out on that youtube

2718
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:02,400
channel

2719
01:36:05,830 --> 01:36:04,080
i never told you and my wife to go to

2720
01:36:06,310 --> 01:36:05,840
the ufo conferences and put my stuff out

2721
01:36:07,590 --> 01:36:06,320
there

2722
01:36:09,109 --> 01:36:07,600
you know i asked him to come on this

2723
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:09,119
documentary said no i asked him to come

2724
01:36:12,629 --> 01:36:10,080
on the phone lines

2725
01:36:14,229 --> 01:36:12,639
he said no it wasn't going to happen he

2726
01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:14,239
was too busy

2727
01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:16,880
not enough time in prison then of course

2728
01:36:19,910 --> 01:36:17,600
you know i

2729
01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:19,920
i then contact his crime partner cross

2730
01:36:23,910 --> 01:36:21,360
and hoover

2731
01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:23,920
17 year old when the murder took place

2732
01:36:26,790 --> 01:36:25,199
yeah

2733
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:26,800
kevin moore did a bang-up job

2734
01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:28,560
investigating this thing

2735
01:36:32,550 --> 01:36:31,520
this man did the murder on behalf of uh

2736
01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:32,560
mark richards

2737
01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:35,760
he was stood up oh there's a girl

2738
01:36:39,830 --> 01:36:38,000
mark richardson and so was another guy

2739
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:39,840
called andrew campbell

2740
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:42,080
andrew campbell got state testimony he

2741
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,360
was a state's witness

2742
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:45,520
and placed crossing and andrew at the

2743
01:36:48,709 --> 01:36:46,960
murder scene while he stayed at the

2744
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:48,719
murder victims house and ransacked the

2745
01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:49,600
house

2746
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:51,600
yeah it was all about a little bit of

2747
01:36:56,950 --> 01:36:53,920
money and i'm happy to say

2748
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:56,960
uh boy what a surprise and uh

2749
01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:00,480
my favorite surprise guest ever right uh

2750
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:03,600
one second let me do it this way there

2751
01:37:06,149 --> 01:37:04,080
we go

2752
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:06,159
we have the actual kevin moore and i

2753
01:37:10,149 --> 01:37:08,320
swear guys this wasn't planned right

2754
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:10,159
uh kevin we didn't plan this you weren't

2755
01:37:14,229 --> 01:37:11,440
going to come on today

2756
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:14,239
but you saw that i was doing this what

2757
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:14,639
uh

2758
01:37:19,109 --> 01:37:17,280
what a fantastic story and i wanted to

2759
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:19,119
share it to try to help terry who just

2760
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:21,040
started a new youtube channel

2761
01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:23,440
because she brought you to bring this

2762
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:24,239
information

2763
01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:26,800
all out and to share this can you give

2764
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:38,709
no we got no audio

2765
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:40,390
yeah so give us a moment while kevin

2766
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:43,280
works out his audio issue

2767
01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:45,679
go over to cam mic and it'll let you

2768
01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:49,119
select your microphone

2769
01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:52,400
there you go yeah so i can't tell you

2770
01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:54,000
it's a it's an honor and privilege to

2771
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:56,960
have mr moore with us

2772
01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:58,719
okay that's working i think now steve

2773
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:01,440
there you go yeah yeah

2774
01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:04,400
okay yeah and it's just watching it back

2775
01:38:06,229 --> 01:38:05,679
just listening back to that tape it

2776
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:06,239
brings back

2777
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:09,119
so many memories you know you've got a

2778
01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:09,440
good

2779
01:38:13,990 --> 01:38:11,920
gotcha and if you didn't know i got a

2780
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:14,000
good gotcha on carrie cassidy she ran

2781
01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:16,400
with the fake story of mark mccandless

2782
01:38:21,669 --> 01:38:19,280
death by shotgun to the head and i did a

2783
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:21,679
deep dive investigation and we uncovered

2784
01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:24,159
the actual truth behind the case she ran

2785
01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:25,440
with fake facts

2786
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:27,679
she said this man was murdered by the

2787
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:28,480
dark

2788
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:30,719
magician cabal and all this stuff she's

2789
01:38:34,709 --> 01:38:32,880
pumping up this fake story about a man's

2790
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:34,719
tragic suicide we looked into it and

2791
01:38:37,270 --> 01:38:36,320
found out that everything she was saying

2792
01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:37,280
in her videos

2793
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:39,040
in her blog was completely made up

2794
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:44,470
yeah i've heard about the mark's story

2795
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:46,000
and it's it's a tragedy that he took his

2796
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:46,800
own life

2797
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:50,000
you know for the family as well um

2798
01:38:53,990 --> 01:38:52,960
yeah god where do we start with this man

2799
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:54,000
well

2800
01:38:57,270 --> 01:38:56,080
as that video sort of goes into when i

2801
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:57,280
made that original

2802
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:00,960
um interview with kerry

2803
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:04,320
i think i think it was back in i want to

2804
01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:06,320
say maybe

2805
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:09,840
july july august 2019 it could have been

2806
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:10,880
earlier

2807
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:14,000
so that was a long time ago

2808
01:39:19,910 --> 01:39:17,440
and uh you know having multiple trips to

2809
01:39:20,629 --> 01:39:19,920
uh marin county to go investigate the

2810
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,639
crime

2811
01:39:23,910 --> 01:39:22,800
um you know so much more became apparent

2812
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:23,920
you know what i mean so

2813
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:27,760
um yeah

2814
01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:30,800
where do i start with this um

2815
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:34,719
so yes borwin never had any children

2816
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:38,239
he was a single man and um i did

2817
01:39:41,669 --> 01:39:40,800
spend time um speaking to crosston

2818
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:41,679
hoover

2819
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:44,880
i probably spent oh my god

2820
01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:48,000
um probably

2821
01:39:51,109 --> 01:39:50,480
well i saw a crossing in person in in

2822
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:51,119
the prison

2823
01:39:58,229 --> 01:39:54,719
that is out in california and um

2824
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:58,239
probably about uh six months worth of uh

2825
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:00,400
you know speaking to him by phone

2826
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:03,280
but you know over the prison phone lines

2827
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:04,800
and

2828
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,960
at one point i decided to re-record the

2829
01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:08,400
interviews with him because

2830
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:09,920
the initial way that i first did it was

2831
01:40:11,750 --> 01:40:11,440
just not good enough for the documentary

2832
01:40:15,030 --> 01:40:11,760
well

2833
01:40:18,950 --> 01:40:15,040
docuseries so you know i spent another

2834
01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:18,960
three months with him um back in uh 2020

2835
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:21,920
over the phone no late 2019 over the

2836
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:22,719
phone

2837
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:25,920
and uh really got his whole story which

2838
01:40:29,030 --> 01:40:26,880
um

2839
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:29,040
you know it's it it's the normal story

2840
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:30,400
of a a very

2841
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:32,639
you know destructive childhood that led

2842
01:40:36,149 --> 01:40:34,239
him down the line of you know

2843
01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:36,159
getting involved with someone like mark

2844
01:40:40,790 --> 01:40:38,239
richards crossing hoover was stood

2845
01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:40,800
um just a couple of a feet away from

2846
01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:41,280
mark

2847
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:43,440
where he was you know stabbing and

2848
01:40:47,510 --> 01:40:44,960
batting um

2849
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:47,520
richard baldwin to death and uh it was

2850
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:49,360
mark that gave him the cue

2851
01:40:52,950 --> 01:40:51,360
to you know commit the murder it was

2852
01:40:54,550 --> 01:40:52,960
mark that planned the murder

2853
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:54,560
it was mark that brought the boat to

2854
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:57,360
help dispose of the body

2855
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:01,280
in um the pablo bay the the

2856
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:03,440
the area where the body was um

2857
01:41:08,629 --> 01:41:05,199
discovered by a local coast guard

2858
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:08,639
in the end um it was um marked that

2859
01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:11,920
um ransacked uh baldwin's house

2860
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:15,119
um and sold guns and other

2861
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:19,040
uh bits of um um stolen um

2862
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:20,480
pieces uh you know yeah and it's

2863
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:22,719
interesting they murdered this man

2864
01:41:26,470 --> 01:41:25,199
and really for not very much money they

2865
01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:26,480
didn't even know

2866
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:28,159
yeah they just found some weed in the

2867
01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:30,719
end and um i i can't i think it was

2868
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:32,159
about two thousand dollars in cash that

2869
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:33,520
they discovered in the end

2870
01:41:38,229 --> 01:41:36,639
uh because baldwin actually um owned a

2871
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:38,239
number of properties his mum was a real

2872
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:38,880
estate

2873
01:41:44,070 --> 01:41:43,040
um um a realtor and um so he was working

2874
01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:44,080
with her

2875
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:46,239
with on property i actually got to

2876
01:41:49,669 --> 01:41:47,600
interview um his

2877
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:49,679
uh richard baldwin's uh very close

2878
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:50,800
friend tom

2879
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:52,800
in the end and you know just to speak to

2880
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:54,880
tom i saw some of those interviews yeah

2881
01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:56,480
yeah just to speak to him about what the

2882
01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:57,760
funeral was like

2883
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:00,800
and you know just the uh just the

2884
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:03,280
the whole details of of what occurred

2885
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:04,719
and i thought i thought you really

2886
01:42:08,550 --> 01:42:05,840
humanized him

2887
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:08,560
the victim because the victim is getting

2888
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:09,840
stepped all over again

2889
01:42:13,830 --> 01:42:11,600
in this story because here's carrie

2890
01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:13,840
cassidy profiting off of the murderers

2891
01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:14,560
[\h__\h]

2892
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:17,840
space buck rogers stories you know

2893
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,520
and i can't imagine that his friends and

2894
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:21,600
family are too happy about her doing

2895
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:22,800
that well

2896
01:42:27,910 --> 01:42:25,440
i actually met susan baldwin the civil

2897
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:27,920
sole surviving member of the family

2898
01:42:31,109 --> 01:42:29,920
she's based in maine and it you know it

2899
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:31,119
was a

2900
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:32,800
i went to go find her she didn't want to

2901
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:34,639
be involved in any of it and i just

2902
01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:36,480
really wanted her take on it and it's

2903
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:37,760
not

2904
01:42:42,310 --> 01:42:40,000
maybe wasn't the best idea but i got to

2905
01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:42,320
speak to her through her door um

2906
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:45,360
in maine and um you know

2907
01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:47,920
38 years later it that the murder is

2908
01:42:51,830 --> 01:42:48,960
still as as

2909
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:51,840
raw to her as it is in 1982 when her

2910
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:53,520
brother's life was taken

2911
01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:56,320
and um she is disgusted that someone

2912
01:42:59,990 --> 01:42:57,520
called joanne richards

2913
01:43:01,270 --> 01:43:00,000
and uh kerry cassidy is promoting this

2914
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:01,280
story like they are

2915
01:43:04,070 --> 01:43:03,040
there's nothing legally she can do about

2916
01:43:05,030 --> 01:43:04,080
it and she wouldn't come on the

2917
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:05,040
documentary

2918
01:43:08,229 --> 01:43:07,840
it was just too painful for her and she

2919
01:43:11,830 --> 01:43:08,239
didn't

2920
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:11,840
trust my motives neither which i

2921
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:12,480
understand

2922
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:14,080
i mean in the end this became personal

2923
01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:16,000
in the sense of um

2924
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:19,440
trying to tell richard baldwin's story

2925
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:22,960
and um may i i probably did get way too

2926
01:43:25,669 --> 01:43:24,159
caught up in this but

2927
01:43:28,229 --> 01:43:25,679
you know it's a bit like a boxing match

2928
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:28,239
right now i feel like i'm about to go

2929
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:30,719
prepping myself for one of the darker

2930
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:32,320
things that i'm about to cover

2931
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:34,080
and it's taken a long time to get to

2932
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:36,560
this point of uh pre-production

2933
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:38,639
um because of personal things that i've

2934
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:39,760
been going through is what i've been

2935
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:40,800
through a divorce

2936
01:43:43,910 --> 01:43:43,360
i'm going to i'm sorry right now no you

2937
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:43,920
know

2938
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:47,360
everything happens for a reason and um

2939
01:43:50,950 --> 01:43:48,800
that there is good to come from

2940
01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:50,960
everything and i haven't really

2941
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:53,119
you know told my story or gone public

2942
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:54,000
about it

2943
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:55,920
um and i'm probably not going to mention

2944
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:57,520
too much about it right now

2945
01:44:01,189 --> 01:43:59,520
and i know that will be used against me

2946
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:01,199
well i've been already told by uh

2947
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:02,400
joanne's friends that it's going to be

2948
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:03,440
used against me

2949
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:05,360
uh in the upcoming yeah look at that

2950
01:44:10,149 --> 01:44:07,520
terrible he's a terrible person

2951
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:10,159
his he can't even stay married yeah he

2952
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:11,760
can't even stay married he's a terrible

2953
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:13,280
person they're gonna use whatever they

2954
01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:14,639
can against you because

2955
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:16,800
you've got facts and evidence and you've

2956
01:44:20,629 --> 01:44:18,960
got interviews and you've got the real

2957
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:20,639
story they hate it when

2958
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:22,320
they get caught with their pants down

2959
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:23,840
selling fake stories and somebody comes

2960
01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:25,920
along and shows the real story

2961
01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:27,840
and you've done that and people listen

2962
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:29,360
people are asking in the live chat and

2963
01:44:32,709 --> 01:44:30,880
i'm curious myself

2964
01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:32,719
i think a lot of people want to see this

2965
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:34,239
documentary and it has

2966
01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:36,560
taken you some time to get it together

2967
01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:38,000
to get it to the point where you can

2968
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:39,600
release it but people are wondering if

2969
01:44:45,430 --> 01:44:41,600
you know a release date or when

2970
01:44:48,350 --> 01:44:45,440
you think it might be well june the 27th

2971
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:48,360
is when i finish my immigration and

2972
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:50,080
congratulations are you gonna be

2973
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:51,520
american

2974
01:44:56,070 --> 01:44:53,920
uh no i got a two-year wait for that

2975
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:56,080
okay well you're on your way

2976
01:44:59,830 --> 01:44:58,560
yeah yeah no i'm i'm very grateful for

2977
01:45:02,229 --> 01:44:59,840
everything right now

2978
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:02,239
um but that that just you know i went

2979
01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:03,520
pro se with everything and that just

2980
01:45:05,750 --> 01:45:03,920
ripped

2981
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:05,760
all my time away i mean you know i can

2982
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:07,360
understand why people have lawyers

2983
01:45:10,390 --> 01:45:09,760
right um i just not had the money to do

2984
01:45:14,390 --> 01:45:10,400
that well

2985
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:14,400
i have a lawyer or lawyers helping me

2986
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:16,800
as a limited scope lawyers but um

2987
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:18,080
obviously their names aren't going on

2988
01:45:21,590 --> 01:45:18,400
the

2989
01:45:25,750 --> 01:45:21,600
paperwork but um um yeah it's

2990
01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:25,760
it's a lot of paperwork so um

2991
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:28,000
i i didn't ever think it was gonna take

2992
01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:29,520
this long to get to

2993
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:31,679
post-production but there is still some

2994
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:33,040
filming i may do

2995
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:34,719
i'm not going to do another crowdfunder

2996
01:45:38,229 --> 01:45:36,560
for money but there is still some

2997
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:38,239
filming that i may do and

2998
01:45:41,830 --> 01:45:40,400
when is it going to be complete i'm

2999
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:41,840
going to be working on it every day i'm

3000
01:45:44,870 --> 01:45:42,719
hopefully going to be

3001
01:45:46,390 --> 01:45:44,880
vlogging about it as well just to keep

3002
01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:46,400
up to date with you know

3003
01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:48,239
with the progress of it but i will not

3004
01:45:50,950 --> 01:45:50,000
stop until it's done i'll not leave

3005
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:50,960
where i am

3006
01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:53,119
until that that docu series is done and

3007
01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:55,199
it is going to be a docu-series

3008
01:46:00,070 --> 01:45:57,119
so it's kind of like you know true crime

3009
01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:01,510
yeah you're following yeah he's a really

3010
01:46:04,149 --> 01:46:03,119
great story it's really weird it's a

3011
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:04,159
great story

3012
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:06,960
yeah yeah you know and you mentioned you

3013
01:46:08,870 --> 01:46:08,639
i was listening back to some parts of

3014
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:08,880
the

3015
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:12,639
you know bill brock brader

3016
01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:15,920
um we're going to look into what we say

3017
01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:16,320
we

3018
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,119
i'm going to look into uh various um

3019
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:23,040
other people that kerry's you know given

3020
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:24,400
a platform to as well and definitely

3021
01:46:28,709 --> 01:46:26,400
bill brock brader is there

3022
01:46:29,830 --> 01:46:28,719
and uh you know bill's an interesting

3023
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:29,840
one and

3024
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:32,320
i mean i've got his original court audio

3025
01:46:35,270 --> 01:46:33,840
and you know where he's a million and

3026
01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:35,280
this has been released before by don

3027
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:36,800
shipley don shipley's actually on this

3028
01:46:40,629 --> 01:46:37,920
docu-series as well

3029
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:40,639
his interviews already been recorded um

3030
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:41,600
and

3031
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:42,960
he but he never gave us the original

3032
01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:44,800
audio from the court but i mean i i

3033
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:46,320
ordered it from the court and it's

3034
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:48,400
it's incredible when the defense lawyer

3035
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:49,760
is you know asking him about

3036
01:46:53,830 --> 01:46:51,760
area 51 did you make it up yeah that's

3037
01:46:55,350 --> 01:46:53,840
not true were you were you a navy seal

3038
01:46:59,109 --> 01:46:55,360
no i wasn't that's not true

3039
01:47:00,790 --> 01:46:59,119
you know yeah so under oath bill

3040
01:47:02,470 --> 01:47:00,800
one of kerry's sources told all these

3041
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:02,480
incredible stories about being a navy

3042
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:04,719
seal and being in a secret space program

3043
01:47:07,990 --> 01:47:06,880
but under oath in court he admitted that

3044
01:47:10,870 --> 01:47:08,000
he made it all up it was

3045
01:47:12,149 --> 01:47:10,880
all fake yeah she didn't take any of

3046
01:47:14,709 --> 01:47:12,159
those interviews down

3047
01:47:15,669 --> 01:47:14,719
or stop taking youtube money for those

3048
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:15,679
no i actually

3049
01:47:22,310 --> 01:47:19,280
actually traced his victim um who was

3050
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:22,320
uh 12 years old at the time and

3051
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:25,520
he sodomized her and um

3052
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:28,880
it you know yeah a very nice guy a top

3053
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:29,520
look and

3054
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:32,719
um it will be

3055
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:34,320
up to the gods whether she comes on or

3056
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:36,560
not right now um

3057
01:47:40,470 --> 01:47:39,040
there's also a number of other people

3058
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:40,480
that we're looking at bill ryan as well

3059
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:41,600
he's going to be on it

3060
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:44,080
uh well he he knows that i'm going to

3061
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:45,600
discuss him in the doctor

3062
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:48,880
obviously he was quite a

3063
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:50,880
a big component of project camelot back

3064
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:52,400
in the day sure

3065
01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:55,040
yeah you know i remember interviewing uh

3066
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:55,760
the lady

3067
01:48:02,390 --> 01:47:59,360
who owns a fine art gallery in florida

3068
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:02,400
and um yeah and you broke this story too

3069
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:03,760
well i didn't break it but i was the

3070
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:05,920
first one to actually interview

3071
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:08,400
the woman that he owed the money to um

3072
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:09,280
he sold a

3073
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:12,159
uh a fake picasso and uh he's never

3074
01:48:15,270 --> 01:48:13,360
reimbursed that woman

3075
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:15,280
or made any attempts to offer

3076
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:17,199
reimbursement i i know look

3077
01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:19,520
you know we've all done things that are

3078
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:21,360
you know that we've all got a past in

3079
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:22,480
the sense that we've done things that

3080
01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:24,080
are wrong but there is always

3081
01:48:27,189 --> 01:48:26,000
you know a way forward to to correct

3082
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:27,199
some of those things you know what i

3083
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:27,920
mean

3084
01:48:32,870 --> 01:48:31,119
so um that's going to be included and

3085
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:32,880
also simon parks as well

3086
01:48:37,750 --> 01:48:36,239
uh who's um put a video out there to

3087
01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:37,760
say that he had met someone in the

3088
01:48:42,870 --> 01:48:39,760
intelligence services in london

3089
01:48:46,229 --> 01:48:42,880
who gave him information to

3090
01:48:47,189 --> 01:48:46,239
um clarify that mark was a person of

3091
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:47,199
interest that was

3092
01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:50,639
involved in the navy

3093
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,880
yeah this is what they do like one fake

3094
01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:54,239
fairy tale salesman

3095
01:48:57,910 --> 01:48:56,080
backs up another one but this is the

3096
01:48:58,629 --> 01:48:57,920
same guy who has sex with cat queen

3097
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:58,639
aliens

3098
01:49:02,390 --> 01:49:00,719
so i don't think he's very credible yeah

3099
01:49:03,990 --> 01:49:02,400
well what's interesting about simon

3100
01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:04,000
obviously is his rise to fame right now

3101
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:05,280
and if you're listening simon i am

3102
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:07,600
coming for you

3103
01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:12,239
oh you're here first i am um

3104
01:49:15,589 --> 01:49:13,599
there's a court case right now in

3105
01:49:18,709 --> 01:49:15,599
england that's taking place where

3106
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:18,719
simon is uh currently suing someone for

3107
01:49:25,669 --> 01:49:22,480
um putting out a video that um

3108
01:49:28,450 --> 01:49:25,679
looked into some of simon's past and uh

3109
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:28,460
yeah that is interesting and um um

3110
01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:30,400
[Music]

3111
01:49:34,950 --> 01:49:33,119
i better not say too much right now yeah

3112
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:34,960
i've heard about that case but

3113
01:49:38,870 --> 01:49:37,119
not being very familiar with the english

3114
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:38,880
courts or how to get the documents i

3115
01:49:40,870 --> 01:49:40,400
haven't gotten any further information

3116
01:49:42,550 --> 01:49:40,880
well i'm

3117
01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:42,560
but i heard that he's he's very

3118
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:44,320
litigious and he sues people like kind

3119
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:45,760
of like corey goodison and all these

3120
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:46,560
people that

3121
01:49:50,470 --> 01:49:48,800
say his fake stories this way he's he's

3122
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:50,480
spent a lot of money on this case right

3123
01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:52,000
now and you think to yourself well you

3124
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:53,440
know it's up to him how he makes his

3125
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:54,080
money

3126
01:49:57,669 --> 01:49:56,560
yeah that's fine but i'm talking about a

3127
01:50:00,870 --> 01:49:57,679
lot of money

3128
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:00,880
um and um

3129
01:50:04,550 --> 01:50:03,280
yeah it's been it's been great uh simon

3130
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:04,560
to work with this guy

3131
01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:07,280
and to help him with documentation and

3132
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:08,000
to um

3133
01:50:12,149 --> 01:50:11,119
supply affidavits and also um to dig in

3134
01:50:15,030 --> 01:50:12,159
deeper

3135
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:15,040
and um it's interesting very interesting

3136
01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:17,040
where simon came from

3137
01:50:20,550 --> 01:50:18,880
yeah and i mean this guy is it's so

3138
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:20,560
funny with his rise to fame because like

3139
01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:22,960
he's literally like a driving instructor

3140
01:50:27,589 --> 01:50:24,320
in england right

3141
01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:27,599
now yeah i mean look um

3142
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,040
when when he brought i was always

3143
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:31,119
dubious about simon i mean you know this

3144
01:50:35,270 --> 01:50:32,320
was back in the day

3145
01:50:36,830 --> 01:50:35,280
and um when he went against the mark

3146
01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:36,840
richard's case with this

3147
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:40,320
bs uh i was like right eff it

3148
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:42,880
you'll be you can be included um because

3149
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:44,320
if you're gonna

3150
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:46,639
show support to such a story which is

3151
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:47,840
not true

3152
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:51,119
um then um it's it's it's it's fair play

3153
01:50:55,589 --> 01:50:53,440
it's open season yeah yeah if he's gonna

3154
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:55,599
you know he's chiming in so you can

3155
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,880
chime in too

3156
01:51:01,030 --> 01:50:58,400
it's got to be done in a delicate way

3157
01:51:03,589 --> 01:51:01,040
i'm not here to bust balls really or

3158
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:03,599
you know no you bust a lot of balls but

3159
01:51:06,790 --> 01:51:04,560
i love you bro

3160
01:51:08,229 --> 01:51:06,800
well i love you for it you know and i

3161
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,239
love those gotcha moments

3162
01:51:11,589 --> 01:51:10,400
and yeah but we've all got we know we've

3163
01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:11,599
all

3164
01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:15,520
that we we

3165
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:18,400
aren't proud of in our past right so you

3166
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:19,040
know

3167
01:51:24,149 --> 01:51:22,560
it's i think though but when when you're

3168
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:24,159
misleading people so much from

3169
01:51:27,189 --> 01:51:25,760
mental health issues or whatever is

3170
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:27,199
going on um

3171
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,960
self-delusion or whatever it is

3172
01:51:33,270 --> 01:51:30,719
narcissism whatever it may be

3173
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:33,280
right that someone's suffering from then

3174
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:34,000
yeah you know

3175
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:36,000
let's just you know i think get together

3176
01:51:39,430 --> 01:51:37,599
and just you know

3177
01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:39,440
you know try to just point out that that

3178
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:40,800
there's something not quite right here

3179
01:51:43,910 --> 01:51:41,520
and just you know

3180
01:51:46,229 --> 01:51:43,920
i think it's it's so interesting how

3181
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:46,239
people um get so attached to someone

3182
01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:49,679
and um a bit like religion actually and

3183
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:53,040
um you know uh it's it's tell me

3184
01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:54,719
you know what to what to do tell me you

3185
01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:56,239
know how to be

3186
01:52:00,229 --> 01:51:58,639
and um you know i won't question it but

3187
01:52:01,430 --> 01:52:00,239
um i think um

3188
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:01,440
i think we should obviously we should

3189
01:52:03,910 --> 01:52:02,560
question stuff and there should be

3190
01:52:06,310 --> 01:52:03,920
discernment

3191
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:06,320
yeah yeah and i think i you you

3192
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:08,480
mentioned in this video

3193
01:52:13,189 --> 01:52:10,639
the same kind of weird awakening that i

3194
01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:13,199
had like i was so naive when i first got

3195
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:13,920
into this

3196
01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:16,320
really when i was a child that i just

3197
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:17,040
assumed

3198
01:52:20,870 --> 01:52:19,280
that when a presenter or an interviewer

3199
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,880
was interviewing somebody who like

3200
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:22,639
said they were a doctor or said they

3201
01:52:26,229 --> 01:52:24,239
were a navy seal

3202
01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:26,239
or whatever their qualifications or

3203
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:28,480
their education was i just assumed that

3204
01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:30,080
that person checked

3205
01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:32,239
and wouldn't let them you know just tell

3206
01:52:35,270 --> 01:52:33,280
fake stories

3207
01:52:36,709 --> 01:52:35,280
but that's that's a great point let's

3208
01:52:38,229 --> 01:52:36,719
say like this maybe that

3209
01:52:40,149 --> 01:52:38,239
if you're going to get a guest on for

3210
01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:40,159
the once right um

3211
01:52:43,990 --> 01:52:42,560
then okay you know where do we have the

3212
01:52:45,589 --> 01:52:44,000
time to go get court records

3213
01:52:47,109 --> 01:52:45,599
or birth certificates right we're not

3214
01:52:48,149 --> 01:52:47,119
it's not about that right

3215
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:48,159
but if you're going to give your

3216
01:52:51,430 --> 01:52:50,159
platform and support over and over and

3217
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:51,440
over again and you're not going to do

3218
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:52,880
your due diligence

3219
01:52:56,550 --> 01:52:55,840
then uh that's not right that's not

3220
01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:56,560
hungry

3221
01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:01,830
or at the very least you know what i

3222
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:03,760
would say is if i had somebody on as a

3223
01:53:07,270 --> 01:53:05,760
one-off and i didn't have the time to

3224
01:53:08,870 --> 01:53:07,280
research their education and their

3225
01:53:10,709 --> 01:53:08,880
background but then a viewer because

3226
01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:10,719
we're very interactive here on my show

3227
01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:12,480
like viewers will send me that kind of

3228
01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:13,840
stuff like you're talking about

3229
01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:15,360
somebody might send me the proof that

3230
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:16,960
somebody that i had on my show that was

3231
01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:19,199
calling himself a physicist or a doctor

3232
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:21,360
is a fraud and his and his education is

3233
01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:23,119
from a degree mill i would share that

3234
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,320
with my audience and

3235
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:26,560
apologize say one of our viewers sent us

3236
01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:27,760
this and i would check it

3237
01:53:31,669 --> 01:53:29,760
you know before i shared it and say

3238
01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:31,679
they're correct this person is not

3239
01:53:35,109 --> 01:53:33,760
his education is not what he what he

3240
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:35,119
claimed it to be

3241
01:53:39,270 --> 01:53:37,440
but that that would be the fair and and

3242
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:39,280
like i think ethical thing to do but

3243
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:40,000
when you get into

3244
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:41,920
ethics with these people they're just

3245
01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:43,440
they're looking for the next

3246
01:53:49,750 --> 01:53:46,880
alien story that they could sell

3247
01:53:51,189 --> 01:53:49,760
yeah yeah it's a fine line you know i

3248
01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:51,199
mean people are allowed to tell their

3249
01:53:55,430 --> 01:53:52,159
story

3250
01:53:56,390 --> 01:53:55,440
and i think nowadays on my more recent

3251
01:53:58,149 --> 01:53:56,400
interviews i'm

3252
01:54:00,070 --> 01:53:58,159
obviously you know i'm i'm just a bit

3253
01:54:01,430 --> 01:54:00,080
more pushy with uh you know where do

3254
01:54:01,990 --> 01:54:01,440
these facts come from you know well

3255
01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:02,000
let's just

3256
01:54:05,510 --> 01:54:04,080
leave it on the table that you know you

3257
01:54:07,270 --> 01:54:05,520
haven't checked this out with all that's

3258
01:54:09,669 --> 01:54:07,280
not you know

3259
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:09,679
yeah it's it's a fine it's a fine line

3260
01:54:13,030 --> 01:54:10,960
it it really is

3261
01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:13,040
and i think sometimes though you know

3262
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:14,400
when things go out of

3263
01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:16,800
too much of the shared reality you know

3264
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:18,400
there's alarm bells ringing there but

3265
01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:18,880
then

3266
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:20,560
you know i'm the guy that's you know put

3267
01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:22,000
the channeling docu-series

3268
01:54:25,510 --> 01:54:23,840
out there and i'm on episode yeah that i

3269
01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:25,520
was gonna ask i was gonna

3270
01:54:28,870 --> 01:54:28,560
ask i was gonna ask i said no go ahead

3271
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:28,880
please

3272
01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:31,679
i was gonna ask you if if if you're sort

3273
01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:32,000
of

3274
01:54:36,470 --> 01:54:34,480
wake up to being more discerning through

3275
01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:36,480
investigating this mark richards case

3276
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:38,320
has affected your attitude towards

3277
01:54:40,629 --> 01:54:39,920
channelers and channeling and your

3278
01:54:43,109 --> 01:54:40,639
previous

3279
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:43,119
uh thoughts on it yeah yeah of course it

3280
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:44,159
has i mean

3281
01:54:48,390 --> 01:54:47,679
look um it's a very difficult one

3282
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:48,400
because

3283
01:54:53,910 --> 01:54:52,239
i'm i try to do i try to come from the

3284
01:54:55,750 --> 01:54:53,920
perspective of

3285
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:55,760
is there teaching information that this

3286
01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:57,360
person is going to give you

3287
01:55:00,629 --> 01:54:59,040
that's going to help you improve your

3288
01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:00,639
life in this present moment

3289
01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,880
okay a bit like a life coach yeah is

3290
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:04,400
this is there something that's coming

3291
01:55:07,830 --> 01:55:05,760
from this information that you've never

3292
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:07,840
considered before that that something of

3293
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:09,360
would make you a better person or at

3294
01:55:12,709 --> 01:55:11,599
least you can try to apply it at times

3295
01:55:14,790 --> 01:55:12,719
in your life

3296
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:14,800
um rather than it's kind of like a

3297
01:55:19,669 --> 01:55:15,920
mental masturbation of

3298
01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:19,679
in one ear out the other right um

3299
01:55:25,189 --> 01:55:23,040
yeah it it i wake up many days

3300
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:25,199
and it's like [\h__\h] am i doing the right

3301
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:26,320
thing

3302
01:55:29,750 --> 01:55:29,040
and i in the end i have to come to the

3303
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:29,760
my own

3304
01:55:36,390 --> 01:55:33,119
um thing of am i trying to

3305
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:36,400
you know is what i'm doing helping to

3306
01:55:40,629 --> 01:55:39,840
um bring about the will that i would

3307
01:55:43,910 --> 01:55:40,639
like to see

3308
01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:43,920
in the sense of you know more love

3309
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:46,080
towards ourselves more love towards a

3310
01:55:50,629 --> 01:55:47,280
fellow man

3311
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:50,639
um more oneness in this world um a more

3312
01:56:51,669 --> 01:55:51,440
a

3313
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:51,679
off you know

3314
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:53,520
is there something in the information

3315
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:54,719
that comes through these people

3316
01:57:00,709 --> 01:56:57,840
or anyone that comes on my show that is

3317
01:57:02,310 --> 01:57:00,719
helpful towards people's present moment

3318
01:57:03,990 --> 01:57:02,320
for issues that we're going through that

3319
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:04,000
we've not considered and sometimes

3320
01:57:06,709 --> 01:57:05,520
the same information keeps coming

3321
01:57:07,589 --> 01:57:06,719
through because we never listened in the

3322
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:07,599
first place

3323
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:09,280
and i think some of the the shows that

3324
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:11,280
are out there that look into

3325
01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:13,199
um i was watching some of cw stuff the

3326
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:15,360
other day and i will be going on cw's

3327
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:16,000
show

3328
01:57:19,669 --> 01:57:17,920
um because when the documentary series

3329
01:57:20,149 --> 01:57:19,679
comes out i did promise him that i would

3330
01:57:22,229 --> 01:57:20,159
you know

3331
01:57:23,830 --> 01:57:22,239
break that ducky series first with him

3332
01:57:24,550 --> 01:57:23,840
right this was you know i think you

3333
01:57:27,910 --> 01:57:24,560
promised me

3334
01:57:28,790 --> 01:57:27,920
too but yeah i think i think i promised

3335
01:57:31,750 --> 01:57:28,800
you second right

3336
01:57:33,430 --> 01:57:31,760
oh okay i don't care he can he can have

3337
01:57:35,589 --> 01:57:33,440
you first as long as we get you because

3338
01:57:37,189 --> 01:57:35,599
i can't wait to watch this thing digest

3339
01:57:38,790 --> 01:57:37,199
the whole thing and then and then

3340
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:38,800
hopefully get to pick your brain behind

3341
01:57:42,310 --> 01:57:40,400
some of the you know

3342
01:57:44,149 --> 01:57:42,320
some of the process that went into it

3343
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:44,159
i'll i'll go into a few things in just a

3344
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:45,280
minute but i i will

3345
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:49,440
while you've got me here um but um

3346
01:57:54,229 --> 01:57:52,719
yeah it's um

3347
01:57:55,830 --> 01:57:54,239
yeah when you take this path you're

3348
01:57:57,589 --> 01:57:55,840
gonna get a lot of criticism

3349
01:57:59,350 --> 01:57:57,599
and uh i think sometimes when i watch

3350
01:58:00,149 --> 01:57:59,360
some of the shows that's even cw's done

3351
01:58:02,470 --> 01:58:00,159
recently

3352
01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:02,480
i think to myself well you know we're

3353
01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:04,000
picking the worst of the worst here and

3354
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:05,520
i've seen some of the people

3355
01:58:08,870 --> 01:58:07,520
you know before he picked them and i

3356
01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:08,880
would just rather get them on some you

3357
01:58:10,709 --> 01:58:09,119
know

3358
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:10,719
if i if i was going to interview them

3359
01:58:13,990 --> 01:58:12,560
just to you know really go to town on

3360
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:14,000
you know where is this information

3361
01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:15,440
coming from what is your background and

3362
01:58:19,350 --> 01:58:17,679
everything but he does it

3363
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:19,360
at looking at some of these people but

3364
01:58:23,430 --> 01:58:21,199
um yes

3365
01:58:24,390 --> 01:58:23,440
it's like you know there's good people

3366
01:58:27,270 --> 01:58:24,400
in any trade

3367
01:58:28,950 --> 01:58:27,280
and there's con artists and you've got

3368
01:58:29,750 --> 01:58:28,960
to use the discernment yourself as an

3369
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:29,760
adult

3370
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:32,880
to look through that as well

3371
01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:35,920
yeah i think you're right so i know that

3372
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:38,080
last i checked in with you uh or heard

3373
01:58:42,310 --> 01:58:39,360
about this documentary

3374
01:58:44,709 --> 01:58:42,320
you were doing something like uh getting

3375
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:44,719
actors to film recreations of some of

3376
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:45,520
the events

3377
01:58:48,629 --> 01:58:47,679
how did that go and how we're dealing

3378
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:48,639
with that

3379
01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:50,320
i never raised the money that i wanted

3380
01:58:54,310 --> 01:58:52,480
to and i would you know this was at the

3381
01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:54,320
point of crisis in my life at the time

3382
01:58:57,430 --> 01:58:56,159
so i didn't get to put the effort into

3383
01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:57,440
it i wanted to

3384
01:59:03,189 --> 01:59:01,199
and um so i i've got some test footage

3385
01:59:05,189 --> 01:59:03,199
that i did with the mark rich's actor

3386
01:59:07,430 --> 01:59:05,199
and and some others and i may use that

3387
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:07,440
footage or i may refilm some bits

3388
01:59:11,669 --> 01:59:09,360
i've still got um bill brock braid as

3389
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:11,679
part to film and i'm using an actor in

3390
01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:12,480
uh

3391
01:59:16,390 --> 01:59:14,800
miami just to do that so i've got to go

3392
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:16,400
down there at some point

3393
01:59:19,270 --> 01:59:17,920
there may be some other actors come on i

3394
01:59:20,550 --> 01:59:19,280
think we're going to get actors to play

3395
01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:20,560
simon parks

3396
01:59:26,229 --> 01:59:24,239
uh well i say we i mean me

3397
01:59:28,390 --> 01:59:26,239
i keep saying that to play some parks

3398
01:59:31,589 --> 01:59:28,400
and uh kyrie cassidy as well

3399
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:31,599
even though she's been de-platformed um

3400
01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:33,360
she you know obviously has a central

3401
01:59:37,030 --> 01:59:35,199
role in in this as well

3402
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:37,040
yeah it's interesting to see her you

3403
01:59:40,709 --> 01:59:38,400
know i think this

3404
01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:40,719
grand plan of hers to get subscribers to

3405
01:59:44,070 --> 01:59:42,239
go to her website is going to fail

3406
01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,080
terribly because if you're not finding

3407
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:46,480
new people because people lose interest

3408
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:48,480
after a while so she's just going to die

3409
01:59:53,030 --> 01:59:50,719
a slow death over there i think i mean i

3410
01:59:54,629 --> 01:59:53,040
don't you know that's that's the problem

3411
01:59:55,990 --> 01:59:54,639
i mean you know the eyes are on google

3412
01:59:57,189 --> 01:59:56,000
the eyes are on youtube

3413
01:59:59,270 --> 01:59:57,199
and when you move away from that

3414
02:00:01,910 --> 01:59:59,280
platform or are forced to move away

3415
02:00:03,350 --> 02:00:01,920
uh you know you will soon probably wish

3416
02:00:05,030 --> 02:00:03,360
that you could come back

3417
02:00:07,750 --> 02:00:05,040
and that's all through her own doing as

3418
02:00:10,790 --> 02:00:07,760
well um you know she didn't stick to the

3419
02:00:13,350 --> 02:00:10,800
the terms and what do you expect

3420
02:00:14,709 --> 02:00:13,360
yeah but no it's a deep state operation

3421
02:00:16,229 --> 02:00:14,719
to stop her because she's

3422
02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:16,239
she's getting too close to the truth

3423
02:00:21,189 --> 02:00:18,400
about aliens kevin that's what it is

3424
02:00:21,750 --> 02:00:21,199
yeah it has nothing to do with the fact

3425
02:00:24,229 --> 02:00:21,760
that like

3426
02:00:25,990 --> 02:00:24,239
oh and listen not only did she get hers

3427
02:00:27,910 --> 02:00:26,000
channel shut down but she went on

3428
02:00:30,550 --> 02:00:27,920
another well-known show on his show

3429
02:00:33,350 --> 02:00:30,560
jean-claude from beyond mystic in canada

3430
02:00:35,270 --> 02:00:33,360
she went on his show and said everything

3431
02:00:37,830 --> 02:00:35,280
you're not supposed to say on youtube

3432
02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:37,840
in a one hour interview she talks about

3433
02:00:39,990 --> 02:00:39,280
the letter of the alphabet the health

3434
02:00:43,030 --> 02:00:40,000
pandemic

3435
02:00:45,270 --> 02:00:43,040
the the shot all this stuff

3436
02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:45,280
and his channel got deleted from

3437
02:00:49,910 --> 02:00:47,760
existence the very next day

3438
02:00:51,750 --> 02:00:49,920
so she hasn't learned her lesson because

3439
02:00:54,550 --> 02:00:51,760
she's still saying the same stuff

3440
02:00:55,669 --> 02:00:54,560
you know she'll never stop and she'll

3441
02:00:59,510 --> 02:00:55,679
never stop

3442
02:01:01,350 --> 02:00:59,520
um yeah kerry cassidy well you know

3443
02:01:02,629 --> 02:01:01,360
um i'm i'm grateful for what she does

3444
02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:02,639
because it's you know made this this

3445
02:01:05,830 --> 02:01:04,000
docu-series possible

3446
02:01:07,830 --> 02:01:05,840
and i think it you know whether it's a

3447
02:01:08,790 --> 02:01:07,840
docus i hope to release the docky series

3448
02:01:11,270 --> 02:01:08,800
for free

3449
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:11,280
on youtube and then you know i'll find a

3450
02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:12,639
home for it you know where wherever

3451
02:01:15,270 --> 02:01:13,360
that's going to be

3452
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:15,280
i think it could fit right into netflix

3453
02:01:19,669 --> 02:01:18,000
and i don't know

3454
02:01:21,589 --> 02:01:19,679
it would need a lot more money spending

3455
02:01:23,350 --> 02:01:21,599
on it so far it's cost 18 and a half

3456
02:01:25,669 --> 02:01:23,360
thousand dollars it's not enough

3457
02:01:26,629 --> 02:01:25,679
to make a docu serious to that level of

3458
02:01:29,750 --> 02:01:26,639
netflix it needs

3459
02:01:31,189 --> 02:01:29,760
it needs more money than that um but uh

3460
02:01:34,310 --> 02:01:31,199
you know i'll do the best with

3461
02:01:36,149 --> 02:01:34,320
what i've got and um hopefully you know

3462
02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:36,159
it'll it'll turn out to be something

3463
02:01:40,390 --> 02:01:38,239
watchable but i i

3464
02:01:42,470 --> 02:01:40,400
yes the murder is important but it's you

3465
02:01:43,910 --> 02:01:42,480
know where are we now what why is it

3466
02:01:46,070 --> 02:01:43,920
relevant

3467
02:01:47,430 --> 02:01:46,080
so i think that's the the angle for it

3468
02:01:49,669 --> 02:01:47,440
yeah and i i was also

3469
02:01:51,669 --> 02:01:49,679
curious if this guy mark richards is

3470
02:01:54,950 --> 02:01:51,679
making all this money selling books and

3471
02:01:56,470 --> 02:01:54,960
[\h__\h] okay well he gives the

3472
02:01:57,750 --> 02:01:56,480
appearance that he is i would think that

3473
02:02:00,390 --> 02:01:57,760
some of that money should go to his

3474
02:02:02,950 --> 02:02:00,400
victims families or something right

3475
02:02:04,390 --> 02:02:02,960
yeah it's all bs um no there's there's

3476
02:02:06,790 --> 02:02:04,400
very little money made

3477
02:02:08,550 --> 02:02:06,800
and so maybe he's making like commissary

3478
02:02:10,229 --> 02:02:08,560
money you know so he can buy chips while

3479
02:02:11,990 --> 02:02:10,239
he's in prison or ramen noodles

3480
02:02:13,510 --> 02:02:12,000
you know but he's still a dangerous man

3481
02:02:17,669 --> 02:02:13,520
you gotta understand this i met

3482
02:02:19,589 --> 02:02:17,679
with uh uh what was sergeant walt costa

3483
02:02:21,830 --> 02:02:19,599
retired as a detective and maybe more i

3484
02:02:24,229 --> 02:02:21,840
met him up um

3485
02:02:25,750 --> 02:02:24,239
with some well i met him up with my

3486
02:02:29,270 --> 02:02:25,760
researcher at the time

3487
02:02:30,790 --> 02:02:29,280
and he was teaching at college in marin

3488
02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:30,800
and you know he wouldn't come on the

3489
02:02:34,709 --> 02:02:32,560
dock you serious because he felt that

3490
02:02:35,990 --> 02:02:34,719
richards was still influencing many

3491
02:02:38,229 --> 02:02:36,000
younger men around him

3492
02:02:39,750 --> 02:02:38,239
who don't spend so long in prison and

3493
02:02:41,830 --> 02:02:39,760
he's only got to influence the wrong one

3494
02:02:43,990 --> 02:02:41,840
and if he was to come on the docu-series

3495
02:02:45,510 --> 02:02:44,000
you know he just felt that his you know

3496
02:02:46,310 --> 02:02:45,520
it was just not the risk he wanted to

3497
02:02:49,750 --> 02:02:46,320
take

3498
02:02:51,589 --> 02:02:49,760
um so you know and he did warn me as

3499
02:02:53,669 --> 02:02:51,599
well that you know just to be careful

3500
02:02:55,750 --> 02:02:53,679
um but it's too late now because it's

3501
02:02:57,910 --> 02:02:55,760
it's all going ahead

3502
02:03:00,070 --> 02:02:57,920
yeah speak speaking of decosta who

3503
02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:00,080
arrested him on that day with a gun

3504
02:03:03,910 --> 02:03:02,800
at his head um mark was definitely on

3505
02:03:06,629 --> 02:03:03,920
planet earth but also

3506
02:03:07,189 --> 02:03:06,639
you know mark yes he yeah that's a great

3507
02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:07,199
point

3508
02:03:11,830 --> 02:03:08,880
carrie cassidy keeps saying that he was

3509
02:03:13,589 --> 02:03:11,840
off playing it it changed it changed

3510
02:03:15,109 --> 02:03:13,599
later on on one of the mark interviews

3511
02:03:15,430 --> 02:03:15,119
the total recall interviews it changed

3512
02:03:19,510 --> 02:03:15,440
to

3513
02:03:23,910 --> 02:03:19,520
mark um having tea with his parents

3514
02:03:27,030 --> 02:03:23,920
so um or maybe he was in space and he

3515
02:03:28,709 --> 02:03:27,040
teleported back just in time to be

3516
02:03:30,149 --> 02:03:28,719
what he arrested isn't he he's supposed

3517
02:03:32,149 --> 02:03:30,159
to be teleporting

3518
02:03:33,669 --> 02:03:32,159
somebody asked her like how is he

3519
02:03:35,430 --> 02:03:33,679
getting all these updates if he's stuck

3520
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:35,440
in prison and she claims that he gets

3521
02:03:40,149 --> 02:03:38,159
teleported out of prison to get updates

3522
02:03:42,390 --> 02:03:40,159
from the galactic council

3523
02:03:43,589 --> 02:03:42,400
right yeah she she called it a form of

3524
02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:43,599
channeling and she's

3525
02:03:47,990 --> 02:03:45,760
on the original interview i did with her

3526
02:03:49,270 --> 02:03:48,000
in los angeles this was before i ever

3527
02:03:50,550 --> 02:03:49,280
you know considered doing the mark

3528
02:03:51,910 --> 02:03:50,560
ritual before that phone call that

3529
02:03:53,910 --> 02:03:51,920
you've all just heard

3530
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:53,920
um yeah formal challenge or

3531
02:03:59,430 --> 02:03:56,000
teleportation i i it was very unclear

3532
02:04:01,589 --> 02:03:59,440
what it what it was um some kind of blue

3533
02:04:02,470 --> 02:04:01,599
it was some kind of woo and he gets

3534
02:04:04,149 --> 02:04:02,480
updates

3535
02:04:06,390 --> 02:04:04,159
kind of like these other people that get

3536
02:04:09,589 --> 02:04:06,400
briefings and intel

3537
02:04:12,149 --> 02:04:09,599
right sure they do yeah

3538
02:04:14,069 --> 02:04:12,159
yeah um i think with mark because he's

3539
02:04:15,589 --> 02:04:14,079
never admitted to the murder or never

3540
02:04:17,189 --> 02:04:15,599
admitted to being there but all the

3541
02:04:17,589 --> 02:04:17,199
evidence placed him there and there was

3542
02:04:22,870 --> 02:04:17,599
the

3543
02:04:24,310 --> 02:04:22,880
state testimony and yeah he turned

3544
02:04:27,350 --> 02:04:24,320
state's evidence then he

3545
02:04:29,910 --> 02:04:27,360
i lost the plot with trying to

3546
02:04:32,149 --> 02:04:29,920
trace him down and eventually on this

3547
02:04:35,189 --> 02:04:32,159
crazy road trip i found him

3548
02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:35,199
and we spoke and

3549
02:04:39,189 --> 02:04:37,920
um having spoken to him which no one

3550
02:04:42,149 --> 02:04:39,199
else has before

3551
02:04:42,550 --> 02:04:42,159
that really you know confirmed it for me

3552
02:04:45,830 --> 02:04:42,560
that

3553
02:04:47,510 --> 02:04:45,840
you know um this this is all true right

3554
02:04:49,109 --> 02:04:47,520
i mean the court testimony is enough

3555
02:04:50,629 --> 02:04:49,119
right but just just to hear it from the

3556
02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:50,639
guy that gave the state testimony back

3557
02:04:56,069 --> 02:04:52,320
in the day and

3558
02:04:58,390 --> 02:04:56,079
um his life is still

3559
02:04:59,589 --> 02:04:58,400
um not so great nowadays when people

3560
02:05:02,550 --> 02:04:59,599
find out that he

3561
02:05:04,229 --> 02:05:02,560
was part of a murder back in 1992 yeah

3562
02:05:05,430 --> 02:05:04,239
you're gonna have trouble finding a job

3563
02:05:06,870 --> 02:05:05,440
you're gonna have trouble living

3564
02:05:08,470 --> 02:05:06,880
yes people aren't going to trust you and

3565
02:05:10,149 --> 02:05:08,480
they'll be scared of you let's

3566
02:05:12,149 --> 02:05:10,159
he stayed at the house while crossing

3567
02:05:15,270 --> 02:05:12,159
hoover and mark

3568
02:05:15,990 --> 02:05:15,280
drove um what was driven by richard

3569
02:05:19,189 --> 02:05:16,000
baldwin

3570
02:05:21,910 --> 02:05:19,199
to richard's uh classic car garage

3571
02:05:23,270 --> 02:05:21,920
as these the the fall was well done

3572
02:05:25,510 --> 02:05:23,280
before but the the

3573
02:05:26,550 --> 02:05:25,520
the trap was to for crossy to have a

3574
02:05:28,229 --> 02:05:26,560
look at some of the

3575
02:05:30,709 --> 02:05:28,239
nice sports cars and to look at the the

3576
02:05:32,310 --> 02:05:30,719
dune buggy that was parked at the uh

3577
02:05:34,629 --> 02:05:32,320
inside the uh the lockup and i went to

3578
02:05:37,669 --> 02:05:34,639
the lock up i went to his original unit

3579
02:05:40,709 --> 02:05:37,679
i've already filmed down there um and

3580
02:05:43,750 --> 02:05:40,719
um yes uh you know the signal was given

3581
02:05:44,629 --> 02:05:43,760
uh to to crossy and um i remember the

3582
02:05:47,030 --> 02:05:44,639
first time

3583
02:05:48,870 --> 02:05:47,040
when crossy you know described the

3584
02:05:49,510 --> 02:05:48,880
murder just describe taking baldwin's

3585
02:05:51,430 --> 02:05:49,520
life

3586
02:05:52,870 --> 02:05:51,440
you know from the gurgling to the last

3587
02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:52,880
words and everything else and i remember

3588
02:05:57,990 --> 02:05:54,159
remember getting off show

3589
02:06:00,870 --> 02:05:58,000
and just feeling absolutely sick

3590
02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:00,880
and um i guess doing this donkey series

3591
02:06:03,109 --> 02:06:02,480
has led me to want to do more of a true

3592
02:06:05,109 --> 02:06:03,119
crime

3593
02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:05,119
um podcast in the future yeah i want to

3594
02:06:07,669 --> 02:06:07,199
expand and i want to expand into some of

3595
02:06:09,510 --> 02:06:07,679
that

3596
02:06:11,109 --> 02:06:09,520
because i think i could do a good job

3597
02:06:12,790 --> 02:06:11,119
investigating some of the stuff and

3598
02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:12,800
talking to original witnesses and

3599
02:06:16,069 --> 02:06:14,320
telling the story you know

3600
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:16,079
yeah it's really interesting stuff but

3601
02:06:19,430 --> 02:06:17,760
when you hear your first murder and you

3602
02:06:22,629 --> 02:06:19,440
know sat with him as well

3603
02:06:24,229 --> 02:06:22,639
um i mean i thought back in the day when

3604
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:24,239
i did that tape recording with kerry

3605
02:06:27,430 --> 02:06:25,840
cassidy that crossy was

3606
02:06:28,950 --> 02:06:27,440
released because you know i didn't know

3607
02:06:30,870 --> 02:06:28,960
any better but obviously you know he

3608
02:06:32,870 --> 02:06:30,880
wasn't and um

3609
02:06:34,629 --> 02:06:32,880
unfortunately when i released a an

3610
02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:34,639
update video on crossy that's still on

3611
02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:36,000
my channel right now

3612
02:06:39,830 --> 02:06:38,000
um and that video will be taken down at

3613
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:39,840
some point um that also

3614
02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:41,840
caused him on top of his own

3615
02:06:45,189 --> 02:06:43,599
misguidedness in the parole board

3616
02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:45,199
hearing because he hadn't sorted himself

3617
02:06:47,350 --> 02:06:45,599
out

3618
02:06:48,629 --> 02:06:47,360
digs to live in or a job or anything

3619
02:06:51,830 --> 02:06:48,639
else but they use that

3620
02:06:55,270 --> 02:06:54,790
yeah and uh so we don't talk anymore but

3621
02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:55,280
um

3622
02:06:59,109 --> 02:06:57,520
my focus for this docu-series is to try

3623
02:07:02,629 --> 02:06:59,119
to tell his story if

3624
02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:02,639
or a separate thing on him

3625
02:07:07,430 --> 02:07:05,199
uh where it just talks about how he has

3626
02:07:08,229 --> 02:07:07,440
rehabilitated which i do believe he has

3627
02:07:10,550 --> 02:07:08,239
i know some people

3628
02:07:11,510 --> 02:07:10,560
don't yeah i believe in a road to

3629
02:07:14,629 --> 02:07:11,520
redemption

3630
02:07:16,229 --> 02:07:14,639
for all men deserve one absolutely the

3631
02:07:18,550 --> 02:07:16,239
prob the problem is

3632
02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:18,560
he's so used to telling the story that

3633
02:07:22,229 --> 02:07:20,639
he's he he's disconnected the remorse

3634
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:22,239
side and i know it's there and i'm not

3635
02:07:26,149 --> 02:07:23,760
trying to back up someone where it's not

3636
02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:26,159
there i do believe it's there for him

3637
02:07:30,069 --> 02:07:28,639
but obviously you know when you're on

3638
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:30,079
the phone for six months they

3639
02:07:34,709 --> 02:07:31,920
are taping these conversations as well

3640
02:07:38,870 --> 02:07:34,719
not just the video i released and um

3641
02:07:41,990 --> 02:07:38,880
sure it was all used against him so um

3642
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:42,000
yes that wasn't so so great but um

3643
02:07:45,430 --> 02:07:43,840
um his next parole board hearing is in

3644
02:07:47,589 --> 02:07:45,440
2023.

3645
02:07:49,669 --> 02:07:47,599
so um the docuseries will be out way

3646
02:07:51,589 --> 02:07:49,679
before that um

3647
02:07:53,430 --> 02:07:51,599
yeah yeah mark richards got done for

3648
02:07:54,550 --> 02:07:53,440
first degree murder and a few other

3649
02:07:56,470 --> 02:07:54,560
things on the side

3650
02:07:57,669 --> 02:07:56,480
uh robbery as well but i don't have the

3651
02:07:58,709 --> 02:07:57,679
quotes in front of me because this is

3652
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:58,719
all last minute yeah

3653
02:08:02,709 --> 02:08:01,280
sure sure yeah yeah just for the benefit

3654
02:08:04,149 --> 02:08:02,719
of people i don't know kevin heard that

3655
02:08:05,589 --> 02:08:04,159
we were doing this or saw that we were

3656
02:08:06,069 --> 02:08:05,599
doing this and just oh you're doing it

3657
02:08:07,910 --> 02:08:06,079
yeah yeah

3658
02:08:09,750 --> 02:08:07,920
yeah and i can't tell you how happy i am

3659
02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:09,760
see this is how i this is how i should

3660
02:08:12,149 --> 02:08:10,079
get

3661
02:08:14,149 --> 02:08:12,159
interviews with people that are too busy

3662
02:08:15,910 --> 02:08:14,159
i should just do a show about them

3663
02:08:17,669 --> 02:08:15,920
and then send them a link and say in

3664
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:17,679
case you feel compelled

3665
02:08:21,669 --> 02:08:19,360
you know to come on and give us an

3666
02:08:23,189 --> 02:08:21,679
update but it's a pleasure to have you

3667
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:23,199
and i just wanted to mention that i've

3668
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:25,199
seen a lot of the material that

3669
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:27,040
kevin has worked on for this because you

3670
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,960
were kind of leaking some of the

3671
02:08:32,790 --> 02:08:30,639
interview bits and things out for a

3672
02:08:35,669 --> 02:08:32,800
while and he has left

3673
02:08:37,589 --> 02:08:35,679
no stone unturned he tried to talk to

3674
02:08:38,870 --> 02:08:37,599
everybody that he could involve with

3675
02:08:41,910 --> 02:08:38,880
this case

3676
02:08:42,629 --> 02:08:41,920
so nobody has nobody has the story like

3677
02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:42,639
kevin has

3678
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:45,360
here no we've interviewed well i well we

3679
02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:46,880
me now there was over

3680
02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:50,560
26 interviews so far and um

3681
02:08:54,390 --> 02:08:52,400
a few more bits of information to come

3682
02:08:56,790 --> 02:08:54,400
yet and you know i think we even

3683
02:08:59,830 --> 02:08:56,800
interviewed mark's ex-wife karen bacon

3684
02:09:02,550 --> 02:08:59,840
um one of mark's all school college

3685
02:09:03,830 --> 02:09:02,560
friends school friends doug there was

3686
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:03,840
doug van allen

3687
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:06,000
and there was um there was another doug

3688
02:09:08,950 --> 02:09:08,000
as well who knew mark back in the day

3689
02:09:11,270 --> 02:09:08,960
because obviously i don't know if you

3690
02:09:16,550 --> 02:09:11,280
know but but back in the day mark was

3691
02:09:21,109 --> 02:09:18,709
so not only is he a murderer he's a

3692
02:09:23,189 --> 02:09:21,119
fraudster too but carrie cassidy

3693
02:09:25,270 --> 02:09:23,199
is gonna take his word for everything

3694
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:25,280
about his secret space adventures

3695
02:09:29,109 --> 02:09:26,719
he got led off for that he's saying his

3696
02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:29,119
same lawyer uh kyle shapiro got him off

3697
02:09:33,189 --> 02:09:30,639
for that back in the day and

3698
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:33,199
also spared his life uh from the gas

3699
02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:34,880
chamber when it came to his murder trust

3700
02:09:38,149 --> 02:09:36,079
oh yeah he could have got the death

3701
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:38,159
penalty easily in a case that gruesome

3702
02:09:40,550 --> 02:09:38,880
sure

3703
02:09:42,229 --> 02:09:40,560
yeah i mean they're trying to get him

3704
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:42,239
out i mean joanne richards

3705
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:44,400
he's on my ass right now and i don't

3706
02:09:47,990 --> 02:09:45,360
blame her but

3707
02:09:49,350 --> 02:09:48,000
you know who wins in this you know i

3708
02:09:50,709 --> 02:09:49,360
mean there's all the accusations that

3709
02:09:51,030 --> 02:09:50,719
i'm working for the deep state and all

3710
02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:51,040
this

3711
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:53,440
oh me too by the way cassidy just said

3712
02:09:56,550 --> 02:09:54,400
that the other day

3713
02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:56,560
i'm a deep state i'm a deep state asset

3714
02:10:01,350 --> 02:09:59,360
because i busted a ton of fake stories

3715
02:10:02,550 --> 02:10:01,360
yeah but who wins here well the only

3716
02:10:05,030 --> 02:10:02,560
woman that's going to win

3717
02:10:06,709 --> 02:10:05,040
is joanne richards because she's on the

3718
02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:06,719
trust for the family

3719
02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:08,159
there is another young lady that's on

3720
02:10:10,709 --> 02:10:09,520
the trust which i've spoken to beth

3721
02:10:12,709 --> 02:10:10,719
mcdermott

3722
02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:12,719
and she even forgot that she was on the

3723
02:10:16,629 --> 02:10:14,000
trust for the house when i traced

3724
02:10:17,589 --> 02:10:16,639
her down in canada and she's staying on

3725
02:10:19,510 --> 02:10:17,599
the trust now

3726
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:19,520
so i'm glad for that so she'll get half

3727
02:10:23,750 --> 02:10:21,760
the house but when that man dies

3728
02:10:25,030 --> 02:10:23,760
um that land is going to be worth quite

3729
02:10:26,709 --> 02:10:25,040
a bit in marin county the house is

3730
02:10:29,350 --> 02:10:26,719
dilapidated it's a [\h__\h]

3731
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:29,360
right but the land is worth a freaking

3732
02:10:34,149 --> 02:10:30,880
fortune the houses around there

3733
02:10:35,589 --> 02:10:34,159
are amazing and she will be the one that

3734
02:10:38,069 --> 02:10:35,599
gets that money and i'm sure

3735
02:10:39,430 --> 02:10:38,079
she will be stopping her bs once that so

3736
02:10:40,550 --> 02:10:39,440
well she's actually got a new book

3737
02:10:43,350 --> 02:10:40,560
coming out soon

3738
02:10:45,510 --> 02:10:43,360
midlife magic the story of joanna uh

3739
02:10:49,109 --> 02:10:45,520
joanne richards

3740
02:10:49,910 --> 02:10:49,119
so um i'm sure yeah when the docu-series

3741
02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:49,920
comes out as

3742
02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:52,079
a weapon to you know kind of go against

3743
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:53,280
what i'm saying which is

3744
02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:55,199
somebody in the live chat said you're a

3745
02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:56,960
fed i'm a fed everybody's

3746
02:11:01,990 --> 02:11:00,480
fed yeah if you go and get i've noticed

3747
02:11:04,390 --> 02:11:02,000
that she has a pattern

3748
02:11:06,470 --> 02:11:04,400
anybody that goes against her stories is

3749
02:11:08,149 --> 02:11:06,480
suddenly a deep state asset a cia

3750
02:11:09,109 --> 02:11:08,159
disinformation agent or something like

3751
02:11:11,430 --> 02:11:09,119
that

3752
02:11:13,669 --> 02:11:11,440
it's like a stupidest form of deflection

3753
02:11:16,069 --> 02:11:13,679
instead of addressing the people's

3754
02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:16,079
you know evidence or claims she just

3755
02:11:23,189 --> 02:11:20,159
dismisses them as cia or something

3756
02:11:26,149 --> 02:11:23,199
yeah yeah and um

3757
02:11:27,830 --> 02:11:26,159
yeah it's it's uh yeah i think i have no

3758
02:11:29,430 --> 02:11:27,840
choice but to see this through right now

3759
02:11:31,430 --> 02:11:29,440
and just just to get it done and i can't

3760
02:11:33,270 --> 02:11:31,440
wait to get it done but um

3761
02:11:35,589 --> 02:11:33,280
yeah she she's the one that's gonna win

3762
02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:35,599
out of all this and um

3763
02:11:39,830 --> 02:11:37,679
um you know i think she's moving more

3764
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:39,840
towards becoming a mystic now becoming a

3765
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:42,719
a a clairvoyant or psychic um because

3766
02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:44,320
she talks about how you know

3767
02:11:47,830 --> 02:11:45,679
the father of mark richards comes

3768
02:11:49,030 --> 02:11:47,840
through to her and uh talks about how

3769
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:49,040
proud he is of her and everything

3770
02:11:52,550 --> 02:11:50,719
i'm like i think you're channeling your

3771
02:11:53,669 --> 02:11:52,560
lower self there joanne

3772
02:11:55,030 --> 02:11:53,679
i think you need to learn the difference

3773
02:11:55,750 --> 02:11:55,040
between the higher self and the lower

3774
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:55,760
self

3775
02:12:02,470 --> 02:11:59,119
um but you know um it's sad it

3776
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:02,480
really is and uh but um i think uh

3777
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:04,320
you know just to keep that memory of of

3778
02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:06,880
richard baldwin who was not a perfect

3779
02:12:10,310 --> 02:12:09,040
human being like none of us are but he

3780
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:10,320
didn't deserve to be

3781
02:12:13,990 --> 02:12:13,280
uh you know to die in in the horror that

3782
02:12:19,750 --> 02:12:14,000
absolutely

3783
02:12:21,109 --> 02:12:19,760
the thing that bothers me more than them

3784
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:21,119
then well

3785
02:12:24,629 --> 02:12:23,360
murder is absolutely awful but the fact

3786
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:24,639
that these people are running around

3787
02:12:27,589 --> 02:12:26,400
trying to profit from this murderers

3788
02:12:30,069 --> 02:12:27,599
fake stories

3789
02:12:31,270 --> 02:12:30,079
thereby victimizing the victims family

3790
02:12:34,629 --> 02:12:31,280
again

3791
02:12:37,270 --> 02:12:34,639
it's just too much for me you know that

3792
02:12:37,750 --> 02:12:37,280
yeah it's crazy it's it's kind of crazy

3793
02:12:40,629 --> 02:12:37,760
yeah

3794
02:12:41,510 --> 02:12:40,639
um there's not many out there like this

3795
02:12:44,709 --> 02:12:41,520
this is probably

3796
02:12:46,390 --> 02:12:44,719
the extreme right um but

3797
02:12:48,229 --> 02:12:46,400
um i think it's a good lesson in

3798
02:12:49,990 --> 02:12:48,239
discernment you know just because

3799
02:12:52,069 --> 02:12:50,000
as you said in this interview just

3800
02:12:53,990 --> 02:12:52,079
because someone's got a large following

3801
02:12:55,270 --> 02:12:54,000
uh it doesn't it does not make them

3802
02:12:56,310 --> 02:12:55,280
right but it's like it's like some

3803
02:12:57,910 --> 02:12:56,320
people will say well

3804
02:13:00,229 --> 02:12:57,920
he's got a lot of money oh she's got a

3805
02:13:00,870 --> 02:13:00,239
lot of money he's he's successful he's

3806
02:13:03,910 --> 02:13:00,880
you know

3807
02:13:06,790 --> 02:13:03,920
he's got all the answers and no

3808
02:13:08,149 --> 02:13:06,800
no they're on their own journey yeah i

3809
02:13:11,189 --> 02:13:08,159
would tend to agree with you

3810
02:13:13,589 --> 02:13:11,199
and you know and again like this

3811
02:13:15,189 --> 02:13:13,599
this kind of one of these things is not

3812
02:13:17,589 --> 02:13:15,199
like the other with her too like

3813
02:13:18,790 --> 02:13:17,599
oh i'm telling people the truth and and

3814
02:13:20,709 --> 02:13:18,800
you know love and light

3815
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:20,719
and at the same time she's profiting

3816
02:13:24,629 --> 02:13:22,960
from a murderer's fake stories and she's

3817
02:13:26,950 --> 02:13:24,639
profiting from fake stories about a

3818
02:13:28,470 --> 02:13:26,960
tragic suicide it just kind of shows her

3819
02:13:30,950 --> 02:13:28,480
ethics and morality

3820
02:13:31,750 --> 02:13:30,960
you know i think that that goes towards

3821
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:31,760
the you know

3822
02:13:34,870 --> 02:13:34,320
the the medium psychics channel is is

3823
02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:34,880
that

3824
02:13:39,510 --> 02:13:38,079
you know um they also are human beings

3825
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:39,520
bringing this information through with

3826
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:40,880
their own fallacy

3827
02:13:45,510 --> 02:13:43,360
and you know i've been guilty and am

3828
02:13:48,550 --> 02:13:45,520
guilty of putting people out there

3829
02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:48,560
on my platform when i know better but i

3830
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:50,560
will have to answer for that one day

3831
02:13:55,510 --> 02:13:53,920
and that'll be my my journey to to see

3832
02:13:56,790 --> 02:13:55,520
maybe one or two of those interviews

3833
02:13:57,589 --> 02:13:56,800
that i put out through and i probably

3834
02:13:59,750 --> 02:13:57,599
will do

3835
02:14:01,430 --> 02:13:59,760
i probably will too yeah well i'm

3836
02:14:03,030 --> 02:14:01,440
learning lately that uh

3837
02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:03,040
you can't please all the people all the

3838
02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:04,560
time you know like

3839
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:06,079
people started attacking me because i

3840
02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:08,239
started having experiences on or because

3841
02:14:12,390 --> 02:14:10,400
i had a tarot card reader on and a bunch

3842
02:14:14,149 --> 02:14:12,400
of people lost their minds

3843
02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:14,159
and it was just a girl coming here

3844
02:14:18,310 --> 02:14:16,159
giving free tarot readings

3845
02:14:19,430 --> 02:14:18,320
for the audience and i wasn't making you

3846
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:19,440
know but

3847
02:14:22,550 --> 02:14:21,040
people i think people come very

3848
02:14:23,589 --> 02:14:22,560
passionate about certain things

3849
02:14:25,589 --> 02:14:23,599
no i think that comes from the

3850
02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:25,599
perspective of someone given that

3851
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:27,199
viewpoint may i'm not saying that

3852
02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:30,480
i don't know i don't know but maybe um

3853
02:14:34,229 --> 02:14:32,880
would come from the space of you know

3854
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:34,239
there is no such thing as the

3855
02:14:38,950 --> 02:14:36,400
continuation of anything that we

3856
02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:38,960
we're not consciousness or we're not

3857
02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:40,960
whatever this is the soul or the i am or

3858
02:14:44,550 --> 02:14:42,719
whatever it doesn't exist because

3859
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:44,560
there's no science to say it exists

3860
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:47,440
and therefore you know anything based on

3861
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:48,159
that premise

3862
02:14:52,149 --> 02:14:51,440
has to be untrue but i do believe that

3863
02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:52,159
we are

3864
02:14:56,149 --> 02:14:54,880
you know something much more in this

3865
02:14:57,510 --> 02:14:56,159
body that we are

3866
02:14:59,350 --> 02:14:57,520
communicating through right now that

3867
02:15:01,430 --> 02:14:59,360
there's an essence of the i am or the

3868
02:15:02,950 --> 02:15:01,440
the consciousness or something that's

3869
02:15:05,910 --> 02:15:02,960
having this experience as

3870
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:05,920
as me and you um that has always been

3871
02:15:10,550 --> 02:15:07,360
and always will be

3872
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:10,560
and um that we agree on yeah

3873
02:15:17,270 --> 02:15:13,599
yeah and you know people people will uh

3874
02:15:18,870 --> 02:15:17,280
will say whatever about uh you know

3875
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:18,880
my relationship with some other show

3876
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:21,119
hosts and you know like i can't

3877
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:24,239
there's some people like uh you know uh

3878
02:15:27,669 --> 02:15:26,320
i don't know uh john stossel

3879
02:15:30,149 --> 02:15:27,679
investigative reporter

3880
02:15:30,870 --> 02:15:30,159
or like uh the guy from to catch a

3881
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:30,880
predator

3882
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:32,880
right and and then later they did

3883
02:15:35,350 --> 02:15:34,159
stories that i i

3884
02:15:36,950 --> 02:15:35,360
just don't agree with some of the

3885
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:36,960
stories that they did or why they did

3886
02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:37,360
them or

3887
02:15:40,950 --> 02:15:39,119
like i can't agree with everything

3888
02:15:42,709 --> 02:15:40,960
somebody does but i can like and respect

3889
02:15:43,830 --> 02:15:42,719
the work that they did that i do like

3890
02:15:46,790 --> 02:15:43,840
and respect

3891
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:46,800
and you and i can agree to disagree but

3892
02:15:50,069 --> 02:15:48,719
i think we agree on some channeling now

3893
02:15:51,830 --> 02:15:50,079
i'm glad to get that understanding

3894
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:51,840
because i think like he's uh

3895
02:15:55,430 --> 02:15:53,599
there's some people that find tremendous

3896
02:15:56,870 --> 02:15:55,440
benefit in channel material and who am i

3897
02:15:58,629 --> 02:15:56,880
to tell them they shouldn't

3898
02:16:00,709 --> 02:15:58,639
but when people start channeling

3899
02:16:02,950 --> 02:16:00,719
interdimensional aliens and stuff i just

3900
02:16:06,229 --> 02:16:02,960
kind of turn off and i go oh this is

3901
02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:06,239
hokey yeah and i and i think uh even

3902
02:16:11,189 --> 02:16:07,840
some of the ones that i may say

3903
02:16:12,790 --> 02:16:11,199
are more credible right then um

3904
02:16:14,550 --> 02:16:12,800
they would soon admit if he was in front

3905
02:16:16,550 --> 02:16:14,560
of them that you know um

3906
02:16:18,149 --> 02:16:16,560
is this their higher self coming through

3907
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:18,159
masquerading as what they're saying and

3908
02:16:21,589 --> 02:16:18,960
it's because they

3909
02:16:23,189 --> 02:16:21,599
are um not able to take responsibility

3910
02:16:24,550 --> 02:16:23,199
that the you know that they're able to

3911
02:16:26,229 --> 02:16:24,560
bring this information through so they

3912
02:16:27,910 --> 02:16:26,239
call it something else that it's not but

3913
02:16:30,310 --> 02:16:27,920
it's the only way that they can

3914
02:16:32,709 --> 02:16:30,320
justify what they're doing at some point

3915
02:16:37,669 --> 02:16:36,230
yeah and um yeah chris hanson that's who

3916
02:16:39,990 --> 02:16:37,679
i was talking about i'm sorry chris

3917
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:40,000
hansen from to catch a predator because

3918
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:43,439
after that he he's he's just uh

3919
02:16:46,950 --> 02:16:45,200
you know sort of turned into a bottom

3920
02:16:48,790 --> 02:16:46,960
feeder in my opinion but you know i

3921
02:16:50,389 --> 02:16:48,800
still liked and respected him

3922
02:16:52,469 --> 02:16:50,399
for some of the work that he did before

3923
02:16:54,709 --> 02:16:52,479
you know you can't and also i

3924
02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:54,719
i lose objectivity i like kevin as a

3925
02:16:58,070 --> 02:16:56,000
person so

3926
02:16:59,669 --> 02:16:58,080
but but here's the difference like some

3927
02:17:02,309 --> 02:16:59,679
of these woo salesmen

3928
02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:02,319
if i if i say i disagree with them i'm a

3929
02:17:05,349 --> 02:17:04,479
i'm a cia disinformation agent or i'm

3930
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:05,359
the devil

3931
02:17:09,270 --> 02:17:07,519
kevin's a good guy and and he can

3932
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:09,280
disagree with me and i can disagree with

3933
02:17:13,270 --> 02:17:11,120
him and we can still talk like friends

3934
02:17:15,190 --> 02:17:13,280
that's what good good people do they can

3935
02:17:16,389 --> 02:17:15,200
disagree agree to disagree on some

3936
02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:16,399
things

3937
02:17:20,709 --> 02:17:19,599
yeah well you know i'm pretty critical

3938
02:17:22,870 --> 02:17:20,719
of myself sometimes

3939
02:17:24,709 --> 02:17:22,880
and you know i've done things that i'm

3940
02:17:26,870 --> 02:17:24,719
i'm not proud of do you know what i mean

3941
02:17:28,309 --> 02:17:26,880
and i can't i can't take them back it's

3942
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:28,319
what this is done is done

3943
02:17:32,309 --> 02:17:30,479
and and and sometimes in my life i'm

3944
02:17:33,429 --> 02:17:32,319
definitely not practicing anything that

3945
02:17:36,150 --> 02:17:33,439
that that of all the

3946
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:36,160
channels that i've met in my life to but

3947
02:17:40,629 --> 02:17:37,840
you know i guess there's a day where you

3948
02:17:42,150 --> 02:17:40,639
you reflect and you think okay well

3949
02:17:45,349 --> 02:17:42,160
maybe next time i'll try better

3950
02:17:46,790 --> 02:17:45,359
i'll i'll try to do better um yeah

3951
02:17:48,389 --> 02:17:46,800
i think it's always okay to make

3952
02:17:50,469 --> 02:17:48,399
mistakes as long as you learn from them

3953
02:17:54,309 --> 02:17:50,479
and you try to do better going forward

3954
02:17:57,429 --> 02:17:54,319
sure yeah yeah there's been

3955
02:18:00,150 --> 02:17:57,439
a lot of those and um i guess you know

3956
02:18:01,750 --> 02:18:00,160
anyone that that's on planet earth is it

3957
02:18:02,790 --> 02:18:01,760
that's just part of the parcel part of

3958
02:18:05,830 --> 02:18:02,800
the picture you know

3959
02:18:09,190 --> 02:18:05,840
of of learning um

3960
02:18:11,910 --> 02:18:09,200
so yeah uh it's it's it's it's uh

3961
02:18:14,709 --> 02:18:11,920
there are no mistakes just experiences

3962
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:16,309
that's a good way to put it especially

3963
02:18:18,629 --> 02:18:17,519
if you're in a period of your life where

3964
02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:18,639
you feel like you're making a lot of

3965
02:18:21,830 --> 02:18:20,240
mistakes that can give you some comfort

3966
02:18:23,190 --> 02:18:21,840
like these are just experiences and i

3967
02:18:24,790 --> 02:18:23,200
gotta get through this

3968
02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:24,800
you know and i'm real sorry that you

3969
02:18:28,950 --> 02:18:26,880
were having a tough time because uh

3970
02:18:31,030 --> 02:18:28,960
you know i can't imagine that's going to

3971
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:31,040
be a lot of personal stuff to deal with

3972
02:18:33,750 --> 02:18:32,000
and sure

3973
02:18:35,750 --> 02:18:33,760
when that stuff's going on everything

3974
02:18:36,870 --> 02:18:35,760
else is kind of like secondary you got

3975
02:18:38,469 --> 02:18:36,880
to get through

3976
02:18:40,230 --> 02:18:38,479
you know the personal stuff before you

3977
02:18:41,990 --> 02:18:40,240
get to the work stuff that you have on

3978
02:18:43,429 --> 02:18:42,000
your plate and you

3979
02:18:45,509 --> 02:18:43,439
you know one of the reasons that i i

3980
02:18:47,509 --> 02:18:45,519
like and respect you is because i see

3981
02:18:47,910 --> 02:18:47,519
some of me and you like you work real

3982
02:18:51,910 --> 02:18:47,920
hard

3983
02:18:52,709 --> 02:18:51,920
you don't you you uncover every rock

3984
02:18:57,349 --> 02:18:52,719
stone

3985
02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:57,359
go down and you follow every lead down

3986
02:19:01,190 --> 02:18:58,000
like

3987
02:19:06,230 --> 02:19:01,200
so

3988
02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:06,240
you know well i i didn't initially do

3989
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:07,679
this by myself

3990
02:19:11,110 --> 02:19:09,599
so i'm not going to say all this was me

3991
02:19:12,549 --> 02:19:11,120
you know what i mean that there was a

3992
02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:12,559
team and i was working with people which

3993
02:19:15,830 --> 02:19:14,080
i'm no longer working with

3994
02:19:18,549 --> 02:19:15,840
and you know i you know i don't take

3995
02:19:20,790 --> 02:19:18,559
credit for for for it all at all

3996
02:19:22,389 --> 02:19:20,800
um you know um well that's what the

3997
02:19:24,309 --> 02:19:22,399
credits are for at the end of the

3998
02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:24,319
credit roll you know absolutely they're

3999
02:19:29,830 --> 02:19:26,000
going to be yes

4000
02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:29,840
yeah yes yes and uh

4001
02:19:33,750 --> 02:19:31,760
yeah there's there's a lot to to this

4002
02:19:35,030 --> 02:19:33,760
story and maybe one day i'll tell my

4003
02:19:36,790 --> 02:19:35,040
personal story of what

4004
02:19:38,309 --> 02:19:36,800
what why i've got to this point right

4005
02:19:41,190 --> 02:19:38,319
now um

4006
02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:41,200
but uh ever thinking it's right time

4007
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:43,120
great well i can't tell you how happy i

4008
02:19:46,070 --> 02:19:44,479
am that you jumped on here to give us a

4009
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:46,080
little bit of an update thank you for

4010
02:19:49,750 --> 02:19:48,000
you know giving us some of your time

4011
02:19:51,190 --> 02:19:49,760
people have been asking me but i don't

4012
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:51,200
want to speak out of turn

4013
02:19:55,270 --> 02:19:53,680
and we haven't spoken in some time so it

4014
02:19:57,670 --> 02:19:55,280
was good to catch up with you and

4015
02:19:59,670 --> 02:19:57,680
and and and i always loved this because

4016
02:20:02,389 --> 02:19:59,680
this show gives me a passport

4017
02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:02,399
to share with my audience instead of you

4018
02:20:05,270 --> 02:20:03,920
know you you and i could have just did

4019
02:20:06,550 --> 02:20:05,280
this on the phone we could have talked

4020
02:20:07,590 --> 02:20:06,560
about what was going on but i'm glad

4021
02:20:08,710 --> 02:20:07,600
that you let me share it with the

4022
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:08,720
audience because they're all

4023
02:20:12,309 --> 02:20:10,560
curious too about the documentary about

4024
02:20:14,710 --> 02:20:12,319
what what you've been doing people say

4025
02:20:16,870 --> 02:20:14,720
you look great i hope you feel great

4026
02:20:17,910 --> 02:20:16,880
and i wish you the best of success going

4027
02:20:20,469 --> 02:20:17,920
forward with this

4028
02:20:22,309 --> 02:20:20,479
with this project and everyone you do

4029
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:22,319
yeah i i think i'll always have the

4030
02:20:25,510 --> 02:20:22,880
channeling

4031
02:20:26,630 --> 02:20:25,520
in the background on the site i don't

4032
02:20:28,710 --> 02:20:26,640
think i'll leave it

4033
02:20:30,710 --> 02:20:28,720
you know i've got businesses that i want

4034
02:20:32,790 --> 02:20:30,720
to set up um

4035
02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:32,800
and to try to do from the right ethical

4036
02:20:35,590 --> 02:20:34,080
space as well

4037
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:35,600
and i know i'm always gonna get a lot of

4038
02:20:39,349 --> 02:20:37,680
[\h__\h] for that but uh you know

4039
02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:39,359
it's my life and when i'm dead he's

4040
02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:41,920
gonna he's gonna care

4041
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:44,240
you know some a mentor of mine once told

4042
02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:45,680
me that when you make a mistake or

4043
02:20:49,910 --> 02:20:47,200
you're having a tough time

4044
02:20:51,190 --> 02:20:49,920
you know anything that you think is a

4045
02:20:52,870 --> 02:20:51,200
huge tragedy just

4046
02:20:54,469 --> 02:20:52,880
just always bear in mind that someday

4047
02:20:56,870 --> 02:20:54,479
you're gonna die

4048
02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:56,880
and this little thing that just happened

4049
02:20:59,830 --> 02:20:57,520
is just

4050
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:59,840
not it's not a big deal when you can

4051
02:21:02,070 --> 02:21:01,120
well that's a good point

4052
02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:02,080
i know we're supposed to be doing it

4053
02:21:05,349 --> 02:21:03,520
right but that's a good point is that

4054
02:21:05,590 --> 02:21:05,359
you know we've all got that common thing

4055
02:21:15,910 --> 02:21:05,600
in

4056
02:21:17,670 --> 02:21:15,920
that's

4057
02:21:19,030 --> 02:21:17,680
going to go to that gym on that journey

4058
02:21:19,670 --> 02:21:19,040
i think that's also what drove me to

4059
02:21:21,190 --> 02:21:19,680
want to

4060
02:21:23,190 --> 02:21:21,200
explore the alternative as well it's

4061
02:21:24,630 --> 02:21:23,200
like well where are we going where have

4062
02:21:26,630 --> 02:21:24,640
we come from and

4063
02:21:28,309 --> 02:21:26,640
and what is in that space to like i said

4064
02:21:30,070 --> 02:21:28,319
before like a broken record to

4065
02:21:31,510 --> 02:21:30,080
help this present moment more but you

4066
02:21:33,910 --> 02:21:31,520
know that's just my take on it it

4067
02:21:35,910 --> 02:21:33,920
doesn't have to be anyone else's

4068
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:35,920
sure and we're all just seeking and and

4069
02:21:40,950 --> 02:21:38,240
learning and and finding our own path

4070
02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:40,960
right that's what we're here for

4071
02:21:45,590 --> 02:21:42,640
apparently

4072
02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:45,600
among other things yeah yeah and and to

4073
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:47,359
be kind to each other as well i think

4074
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:49,520
i mean am i being kind in making this

4075
02:21:51,990 --> 02:21:51,280
dog you serious no this has been boxing

4076
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:52,000
gloves on

4077
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:53,280
youtube fight you know what i mean

4078
02:21:55,750 --> 02:21:54,560
almost it's going to get to that point

4079
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:55,760
as well

4080
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:57,920
but sometimes that's just what happens

4081
02:22:00,630 --> 02:21:59,760
when you when you do make these choices

4082
02:22:04,150 --> 02:22:00,640
with free will

4083
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:04,160
right um but

4084
02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:06,319
am i preaching what i'm saying by doing

4085
02:22:10,870 --> 02:22:07,600
a documentary like this

4086
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:10,880
uh you know and uh god it's it's a fine

4087
02:22:14,389 --> 02:22:12,720
line

4088
02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:14,399
no and i know how taxing it can be

4089
02:22:16,630 --> 02:22:16,160
because this stuff gets emotional

4090
02:22:18,550 --> 02:22:16,640
especially

4091
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:18,560
dealing with this tragic murder and and

4092
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:20,000
it gets emotional and

4093
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:22,000
and it takes so much energy to follow up

4094
02:22:25,990 --> 02:22:23,520
all these leads and

4095
02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:26,000
and and to kevin's credit he does a

4096
02:22:29,349 --> 02:22:27,600
better job than me because i

4097
02:22:31,110 --> 02:22:29,359
you know i'm a little bit travel

4098
02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:31,120
restricted so i do most things by

4099
02:22:34,950 --> 02:22:32,800
telephone but you're actually getting on

4100
02:22:36,070 --> 02:22:34,960
planes and flying places and driving

4101
02:22:38,469 --> 02:22:36,080
places

4102
02:22:41,110 --> 02:22:38,479
yeah yeah back in the day yeah yeah

4103
02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:41,120
would there be another documentary

4104
02:22:45,510 --> 02:22:43,600
i don't know i heard from a friend who's

4105
02:22:46,550 --> 02:22:45,520
made who made a really good documentary

4106
02:22:47,990 --> 02:22:46,560
and i asked him

4107
02:22:49,590 --> 02:22:48,000
are you starting on a new one and he

4108
02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:49,600
said i don't know because the first one

4109
02:22:53,429 --> 02:22:50,000
almost

4110
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:53,439
killed me yeah right

4111
02:22:58,150 --> 02:22:56,399
that's so true yeah well this one is

4112
02:23:00,550 --> 02:22:58,160
it's going to be a first of many i

4113
02:23:01,270 --> 02:23:00,560
i predict it will i i think what i'd

4114
02:23:02,790 --> 02:23:01,280
like to do

4115
02:23:04,790 --> 02:23:02,800
maybe after this and i think i'm going

4116
02:23:06,790 --> 02:23:04,800
to make a choice but

4117
02:23:09,670 --> 02:23:06,800
i don't know i i just see myself going

4118
02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:09,680
through a big change and i think

4119
02:23:14,469 --> 02:23:11,920
i i don't i can't say this for sure but

4120
02:23:17,590 --> 02:23:14,479
but i'm interested in like

4121
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:17,600
the news and you know i've got this idea

4122
02:23:19,670 --> 02:23:18,000
for

4123
02:23:22,070 --> 02:23:19,680
a new site called the international

4124
02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:22,080
spiritual news network the is an end

4125
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:24,640
and it would it would combine uh the

4126
02:23:28,790 --> 02:23:26,240
news but then looking at it from a

4127
02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:28,800
deeper karmic reason with you know

4128
02:23:33,030 --> 02:23:30,800
look at the the bigger reasons under it

4129
02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:33,040
karmically and spiritually with

4130
02:23:36,230 --> 02:23:35,040
maybe channelers and psychics and stuff

4131
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:36,240
like that you know just something

4132
02:23:40,150 --> 02:23:38,319
really really different i don't know if

4133
02:23:42,309 --> 02:23:40,160
that's ever going to come into fruition

4134
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:42,319
but i'm i'm thinking of it

4135
02:23:45,510 --> 02:23:43,840
yeah well good for you i wish you the

4136
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:45,520
best of success and thank you so much

4137
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:46,000
for doing

4138
02:23:49,190 --> 02:23:47,680
this i really really appreciate it this

4139
02:23:51,670 --> 02:23:49,200
was the unexpected

4140
02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:51,680
surprise for me today thank you very

4141
02:23:54,230 --> 02:23:53,040
much i'm going to throw you out of here

4142
02:23:55,670 --> 02:23:54,240
and do a quick wrap up

4143
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:55,680
i appreciate your time thank you

4144
02:24:01,910 --> 02:23:59,120
everyone all right thanks mr kevin moore

4145
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:01,920
thank you all right friends so boy what

4146
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:03,680
can i say what a big surprise

4147
02:24:07,349 --> 02:24:05,680
i always wanted to get mr moore on my

4148
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:07,359
show and talk to him a bit more about

4149
02:24:10,230 --> 02:24:09,120
this stuff i want to remind all of our

4150
02:24:11,830 --> 02:24:10,240
audio listeners

4151
02:24:14,309 --> 02:24:11,840
if you're listening in audio podcast

4152
02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:14,319
land we're we broadcast live on twitch

4153
02:24:18,230 --> 02:24:15,760
youtube and

4154
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:18,240
uh facebook live and there's a live chat

4155
02:24:22,070 --> 02:24:18,800
you too

4156
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:22,080
can uh youtube can participate

4157
02:24:26,710 --> 02:24:24,560
in the discussion like uh like we do

4158
02:24:29,429 --> 02:24:26,720
here every live show

4159
02:24:30,870 --> 02:24:29,439
i to uh give some time and attention to

4160
02:24:33,030 --> 02:24:30,880
the live chat so if you have any

4161
02:24:36,309 --> 02:24:33,040
questions or comments for me

4162
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:36,319
please put them in all all capital

4163
02:24:39,830 --> 02:24:37,359
letters

4164
02:24:41,030 --> 02:24:39,840
wow that was great stephen thanks aj you

4165
02:24:43,110 --> 02:24:41,040
know what's funny is i

4166
02:24:44,710 --> 02:24:43,120
i kind of was like i was thinking that

4167
02:24:46,309 --> 02:24:44,720
this was going to be sort of a filler

4168
02:24:47,750 --> 02:24:46,319
show before i get to

4169
02:24:49,670 --> 02:24:47,760
something else that i'm working on for

4170
02:24:51,670 --> 02:24:49,680
tomorrow's show uh

4171
02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:51,680
you never know when you go click live

4172
02:24:55,349 --> 02:24:53,439
what's going to happen it's a live show

4173
02:24:56,469 --> 02:24:55,359
you get to show warts and all where you

4174
02:24:58,469 --> 02:24:56,479
get the show

4175
02:25:00,070 --> 02:24:58,479
you know uh great stuff and all and

4176
02:25:02,389 --> 02:25:00,080
tonight boy what a surprise

4177
02:25:03,670 --> 02:25:02,399
kevin moore just happened to hear that

4178
02:25:06,870 --> 02:25:03,680
we were doing this

4179
02:25:08,870 --> 02:25:06,880
and jumped on here uh yeah

4180
02:25:10,550 --> 02:25:08,880
rodrigo says this turned out great happy

4181
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:10,560
for having dropped in because stephen

4182
02:25:12,790 --> 02:25:11,040
kevin

4183
02:25:14,230 --> 02:25:12,800
and the chapter see there you never know

4184
02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:14,240
what's going to happen

4185
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:18,000
so uh make sure make sure that you tune

4186
02:25:20,870 --> 02:25:18,640
in

4187
02:25:22,630 --> 02:25:20,880
genocide so those slides stephen i'm

4188
02:25:23,349 --> 02:25:22,640
telling you i'm working on it i'm gonna

4189
02:25:27,349 --> 02:25:23,359
do

4190
02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:27,359
presentation on my linux

4191
02:25:30,710 --> 02:25:29,200
my version of linux operating system

4192
02:25:33,510 --> 02:25:30,720
with slides

4193
02:25:34,469 --> 02:25:33,520
right and terry joyce is here and says

4194
02:25:36,950 --> 02:25:34,479
thank you stephen

4195
02:25:38,630 --> 02:25:36,960
and kevin for the support absolutely i

4196
02:25:40,309 --> 02:25:38,640
had no idea that kevin was going to come

4197
02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:40,319
on my show i swear terry

4198
02:25:43,590 --> 02:25:42,880
i just thought terry started this new

4199
02:25:45,510 --> 02:25:43,600
channel

4200
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:45,520
i want to see if i could signal boost

4201
02:25:50,309 --> 02:25:47,359
her and get her a little bump

4202
02:25:51,429 --> 02:25:50,319
and really everybody make sure if you'd

4203
02:25:53,750 --> 02:25:51,439
like this story

4204
02:25:55,670 --> 02:25:53,760
this story came from terry joyce she got

4205
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:55,680
him to release the tape of talking to

4206
02:25:59,349 --> 02:25:57,120
carrie cassidy and

4207
02:26:00,150 --> 02:25:59,359
her interview is amazing with him just

4208
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:00,160
search

4209
02:26:05,910 --> 02:26:04,000
carrie cassidy kevin moore terry joyce

4210
02:26:07,110 --> 02:26:05,920
in the youtube search bar and you will

4211
02:26:09,110 --> 02:26:07,120
find it actually

4212
02:26:10,790 --> 02:26:09,120
uh it's it's on the kevin moore show

4213
02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:10,800
channel i'm gonna

4214
02:26:14,309 --> 02:26:13,200
i am gonna copy it and i'm gonna go over

4215
02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:14,319
to our live chat

4216
02:26:17,990 --> 02:26:16,240
and i'm gonna put it in our live chat so

4217
02:26:21,030 --> 02:26:18,000
you could see

4218
02:26:22,070 --> 02:26:21,040
terry joyce complete interview with

4219
02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:22,080
kevin moore

4220
02:26:26,230 --> 02:26:24,000
which was back in 2019 but it's still

4221
02:26:29,030 --> 02:26:26,240
very relevant to the story

4222
02:26:30,950 --> 02:26:29,040
uh and uh yeah genocide says i sucked

4223
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:30,960
terry joyce a while ago i

4224
02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:32,560
got a brand new channel you might want

4225
02:26:38,870 --> 02:26:35,200
to check again there is a

4226
02:26:41,349 --> 02:26:38,880
uh there is a

4227
02:26:42,309 --> 02:26:41,359
link to her new channel in the about

4228
02:26:44,950 --> 02:26:42,319
section of this

4229
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:44,960
video here and i'm going to tweet it out

4230
02:26:49,030 --> 02:26:46,560
as well so if you're listening in audio

4231
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:49,040
podcast land uh you can follow me on

4232
02:26:52,790 --> 02:26:51,520
twitter it's at stevencambian or you can

4233
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,800
go to our youtube channel

4234
02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:54,800
just search truthseekers and look for

4235
02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:56,160
that weird looking guy with the

4236
02:26:59,590 --> 02:26:57,600
sunglasses

4237
02:27:00,830 --> 02:26:59,600
and that would be your host me stephen

4238
02:27:03,429 --> 02:27:00,840
campion

4239
02:27:05,429 --> 02:27:03,439
uh i welcome you to come and subscribe

4240
02:27:07,110 --> 02:27:05,439
to the youtube channel where we do the

4241
02:27:08,710 --> 02:27:07,120
live shows because

4242
02:27:10,230 --> 02:27:08,720
remember if you're listening in audio

4243
02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:10,240
podcast lane and i realize a lot of

4244
02:27:13,190 --> 02:27:12,080
people have jobs that let them listen

4245
02:27:14,870 --> 02:27:13,200
but not watch

4246
02:27:16,469 --> 02:27:14,880
so that's why we do we're doing this

4247
02:27:18,309 --> 02:27:16,479
audio podcast now

4248
02:27:19,910 --> 02:27:18,319
and the audio podcast is available

4249
02:27:20,790 --> 02:27:19,920
anywhere you get your podcast it's

4250
02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:20,800
available on

4251
02:27:27,429 --> 02:27:24,080
uh you know apple podcasts and uh

4252
02:27:31,110 --> 02:27:27,439
spotify and spreaker and uh

4253
02:27:32,550 --> 02:27:31,120
i believe amazon even now it's literally

4254
02:27:34,710 --> 02:27:32,560
available everywhere

4255
02:27:36,630 --> 02:27:34,720
but we'd like you to come and be a part

4256
02:27:37,030 --> 02:27:36,640
of our community so please do search

4257
02:27:40,150 --> 02:27:37,040
this

4258
02:27:40,790 --> 02:27:40,160
youtube search box for truth seekers and

4259
02:27:43,030 --> 02:27:40,800
look for

4260
02:27:44,710 --> 02:27:43,040
the guy with the sunglasses and the and

4261
02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:44,720
the weird dark hair that would be me

4262
02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:47,680
and you'll find us please make sure that

4263
02:27:50,950 --> 02:27:48,160
you

4264
02:27:52,469 --> 02:27:50,960
subscribe to our show and hit that

4265
02:27:54,230 --> 02:27:52,479
notification bell

4266
02:27:55,830 --> 02:27:54,240
every time we do a live show you'll get

4267
02:27:57,110 --> 02:27:55,840
a notification and know that we are

4268
02:27:59,349 --> 02:27:57,120
broadcasting live

4269
02:28:00,469 --> 02:27:59,359
otherwise be sure to follow me at

4270
02:28:03,910 --> 02:28:00,479
stevencambian

4271
02:28:05,830 --> 02:28:03,920
on twitter and uh i post

4272
02:28:07,349 --> 02:28:05,840
every show before we do them so you get

4273
02:28:08,309 --> 02:28:07,359
a little bit of notice if you follow me

4274
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:08,319
on twitter

4275
02:28:11,750 --> 02:28:10,560
that is the best way following me on

4276
02:28:13,670 --> 02:28:11,760
twitter sometimes these

4277
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:13,680
youtube notifications don't work out but

4278
02:28:17,590 --> 02:28:15,600
if you follow me on twitter

4279
02:28:19,510 --> 02:28:17,600
you will definitely get notice of every

4280
02:28:21,429 --> 02:28:19,520
new show that we do here

4281
02:28:22,790 --> 02:28:21,439
and you can you too can join us in the

4282
02:28:24,790 --> 02:28:22,800
live chat we are live

4283
02:28:26,550 --> 02:28:24,800
interactive chat when you hear me

4284
02:28:28,309 --> 02:28:26,560
reading uh i'm reading

4285
02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:28,319
live comments from the people in our

4286
02:28:33,910 --> 02:28:30,160
live chat while we're doing the live

4287
02:28:35,510 --> 02:28:33,920
broadcast noodle time is here shout out

4288
02:28:37,030 --> 02:28:35,520
to noodletime and asks what do you think

4289
02:28:39,990 --> 02:28:37,040
of the story about the children in

4290
02:28:43,590 --> 02:28:40,000
zimbabwe who supposedly saw aliens

4291
02:28:45,830 --> 02:28:43,600
well i think it's very credible uh

4292
02:28:47,510 --> 02:28:45,840
from the from the witness testimony i

4293
02:28:51,030 --> 02:28:47,520
have heard and then in this

4294
02:28:52,389 --> 02:28:51,040
uh in this recent uh documentary i think

4295
02:28:55,270 --> 02:28:52,399
it's the phenomenon

4296
02:28:55,910 --> 02:28:55,280
right they interviewed those children as

4297
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:55,920
adults

4298
02:28:59,349 --> 02:28:58,399
and they all stuck by their stories 100

4299
02:29:01,670 --> 02:28:59,359
saying that they saw

4300
02:29:03,429 --> 02:29:01,680
spacecraft and aliens i would tend to

4301
02:29:04,710 --> 02:29:03,439
believe those people until proven

4302
02:29:07,750 --> 02:29:04,720
otherwise

4303
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:07,760
right yes

4304
02:29:12,230 --> 02:29:09,920
genocide said everyone sub to terry

4305
02:29:13,030 --> 02:29:12,240
joyce new channel let's get her past 100

4306
02:29:16,309 --> 02:29:13,040
subs

4307
02:29:18,710 --> 02:29:16,319
yeah and i am a terrible friend because

4308
02:29:20,469 --> 02:29:18,720
i still haven't but um what i'm gonna do

4309
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:20,479
is i'm going over

4310
02:29:24,070 --> 02:29:23,680
to her channel right now uh there's a

4311
02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:24,080
note

4312
02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:27,680
in the about section of our of our video

4313
02:29:31,190 --> 02:29:29,200
here and it says please subscribe to

4314
02:29:32,389 --> 02:29:31,200
terry joyce's new channel i'm going over

4315
02:29:34,630 --> 02:29:32,399
there right now

4316
02:29:37,270 --> 02:29:34,640
and hitting that subscribe button and

4317
02:29:39,349 --> 02:29:37,280
smashing that notification bell

4318
02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:39,359
and please do the same for me yeah we've

4319
02:29:42,870 --> 02:29:41,760
got her at 77 subscribers so let's see

4320
02:29:47,349 --> 02:29:42,880
we've got

4321
02:29:49,110 --> 02:29:47,359
come on guys go over there and click

4322
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:49,120
that subscribe button let's help terry

4323
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:50,800
out she does good work

4324
02:29:54,710 --> 02:29:52,800
and i would really like to help her i

4325
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:54,720
consider it my karmic duty

4326
02:29:58,389 --> 02:29:56,800
considering when i started my new

4327
02:30:01,510 --> 02:29:58,399
channel some 11 months ago

4328
02:30:05,510 --> 02:30:01,520
a lot of different content uh creators

4329
02:30:08,630 --> 02:30:05,520
show host podcast hosts radio show hosts

4330
02:30:10,550 --> 02:30:08,640
all uh sent me some subscribers so my

4331
02:30:11,590 --> 02:30:10,560
success was not my own somebody helped

4332
02:30:13,910 --> 02:30:11,600
me get to the sub

4333
02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:13,920
level that we're at right now and i want

4334
02:30:17,990 --> 02:30:15,120
to return the favor

4335
02:30:19,590 --> 02:30:18,000
uh and and be all right with karma and

4336
02:30:22,790 --> 02:30:19,600
do the same for others so

4337
02:30:24,790 --> 02:30:22,800
uh terry's my first attempt to do that

4338
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:24,800
please do help her out go over there and

4339
02:30:31,030 --> 02:30:29,910
rogue status is laughing out loud about

4340
02:30:32,950 --> 02:30:31,040
yeah

4341
02:30:34,630 --> 02:30:32,960
getting yelled at holding the flashlight

4342
02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:34,640
now he's holding the flashlight i'm

4343
02:30:39,270 --> 02:30:35,840
still getting yelled at

4344
02:30:41,590 --> 02:30:39,280
yeah my father rogue status was

4345
02:30:43,349 --> 02:30:41,600
somewhat he was a mechanic but he didn't

4346
02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:43,359
do a mechanic for a job

4347
02:30:47,110 --> 02:30:46,399
he just you know tinkered around my

4348
02:30:49,510 --> 02:30:47,120
brother is an

4349
02:30:51,349 --> 02:30:49,520
actual real diesel mechanic for septa

4350
02:30:53,429 --> 02:30:51,359
believe it or not he rebuilds all the

4351
02:30:55,270 --> 02:30:53,439
engines in the buses but my father

4352
02:30:57,670 --> 02:30:55,280
growing up was always working on

4353
02:30:59,270 --> 02:30:57,680
something whether it was a boat motor or

4354
02:31:02,309 --> 02:30:59,280
a car motor

4355
02:31:03,910 --> 02:31:02,319
or go card a moped a motorcycle and my

4356
02:31:05,990 --> 02:31:03,920
job was to hold the flashlight and get

4357
02:31:07,830 --> 02:31:06,000
yelled at while he did that

4358
02:31:09,429 --> 02:31:07,840
i'm still traumatized to this day

4359
02:31:10,950 --> 02:31:09,439
because i wanted to learn about engines

4360
02:31:14,469 --> 02:31:10,960
but all i learned was how to hold the

4361
02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:14,479
flashlight and get yelled at my father

4362
02:31:16,790 --> 02:31:16,000
was the kind of guy that thought that

4363
02:31:19,429 --> 02:31:16,800
cursing

4364
02:31:21,030 --> 02:31:19,439
made uh everything work better right

4365
02:31:21,830 --> 02:31:21,040
that that's how you made progress you're

4366
02:31:23,349 --> 02:31:21,840
doing a home

4367
02:31:25,270 --> 02:31:23,359
like a home remodeling project just

4368
02:31:28,550 --> 02:31:25,280
start cursing profusely

4369
02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:28,560
when things don't go well and it was

4370
02:31:32,309 --> 02:31:30,479
very traumatic growing up with him like

4371
02:31:34,150 --> 02:31:32,319
that he was very hot-headed he had a

4372
02:31:35,910 --> 02:31:34,160
terrible terrible temper i do

4373
02:31:37,830 --> 02:31:35,920
sometimes myself but i really try to

4374
02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:37,840
control myself a little better than he

4375
02:31:40,790 --> 02:31:38,560
did

4376
02:31:42,630 --> 02:31:40,800
right sometimes people are there to

4377
02:31:43,830 --> 02:31:42,640
teach you lessons rogue status and

4378
02:31:44,870 --> 02:31:43,840
sometimes they're there to teach you

4379
02:31:47,830 --> 02:31:44,880
lessons of how

4380
02:31:48,469 --> 02:31:47,840
you know you you can't be or or how to

4381
02:31:51,990 --> 02:31:48,479
be better

4382
02:31:57,110 --> 02:31:55,190
dustin says pretty good story f 72 says

4383
02:31:58,710 --> 02:31:57,120
check out stephen campbell on patreon

4384
02:32:00,630 --> 02:31:58,720
see that all of you haters

4385
02:32:02,389 --> 02:32:00,640
i don't even have to ask for money my

4386
02:32:04,630 --> 02:32:02,399
audience does it for me because they

4387
02:32:06,469 --> 02:32:04,640
want me to be happy and successful

4388
02:32:09,910 --> 02:32:06,479
remember friends every super chat

4389
02:32:13,670 --> 02:32:09,920
donation makes a stephen campion smile

4390
02:32:16,870 --> 02:32:15,510
so i do want to thank everybody i'm

4391
02:32:18,389 --> 02:32:16,880
going to check in with that right now

4392
02:32:19,990 --> 02:32:18,399
just to make sure that i did not miss

4393
02:32:21,110 --> 02:32:20,000
anybody and actually what we're doing

4394
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now

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to make absolutely certain that we never

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miss a super chat

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02:32:28,230 --> 02:32:26,000
is that at the end of the show and we're

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02:32:31,429 --> 02:32:28,240
wrapping up right in a few minutes here

4399
02:32:33,030 --> 02:32:31,439
i read the days super chats again just

4400
02:32:35,670 --> 02:32:33,040
to be sure that we recognize

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02:32:37,190 --> 02:32:35,680
thank those people and and recognize

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02:32:38,070 --> 02:32:37,200
their kindness their generosity and

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02:32:40,070 --> 02:32:38,080
support so tonight

4404
02:32:42,630 --> 02:32:40,080
we had kind and generous donation of ten

4405
02:32:43,990 --> 02:32:42,640
dollars australian from ann shirachi

4406
02:32:46,070 --> 02:32:44,000
thank you very much for your kindness

4407
02:32:47,110 --> 02:32:46,080
your generosity and support rogue status

4408
02:32:49,429 --> 02:32:47,120
with a kanji

4409
02:32:50,469 --> 02:32:49,439
a generous donation of five dollars in

4410
02:32:52,950 --> 02:32:50,479
super chat

4411
02:32:54,070 --> 02:32:52,960
thank you very much fellow philadelphian

4412
02:32:55,990 --> 02:32:54,080
someday we're going to have you visit

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02:32:57,030 --> 02:32:56,000
the studio here well i call it a studio

4414
02:32:58,950 --> 02:32:57,040
it's really a

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02:33:00,469 --> 02:32:58,960
little tiny office don't tell anybody

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02:33:03,990 --> 02:33:00,479
when you come here rogue status though

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02:33:07,510 --> 02:33:06,150
f graph 72 with a kind and generous

4418
02:33:10,230 --> 02:33:07,520
donation of u.s

4419
02:33:11,750 --> 02:33:10,240
two dollars uh in super chat uh sent a

4420
02:33:14,389 --> 02:33:11,760
nice super chat of two dollars said

4421
02:33:17,590 --> 02:33:14,399
starting a producer production aid fund

4422
02:33:19,510 --> 02:33:17,600
thank you very much and karen rocca

4423
02:33:21,990 --> 02:33:19,520
uh with the kind and generous five

4424
02:33:23,990 --> 02:33:22,000
dollar canadian super chat says happy

4425
02:33:25,190 --> 02:33:24,000
birthday again stephen so thank you all

4426
02:33:27,190 --> 02:33:25,200
very much for your kindness your

4427
02:33:28,870 --> 02:33:27,200
generosity and support you guys give me

4428
02:33:31,349 --> 02:33:28,880
an attitude of gratitude

4429
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:31,359
because basically anything i need to do

4430
02:33:34,870 --> 02:33:33,040
around here i've got a couple of bucks

4431
02:33:35,590 --> 02:33:34,880
to do it and i've got some great stuff

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02:33:37,349 --> 02:33:35,600
coming up

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02:33:39,990 --> 02:33:37,359
that you guys are going to love some new

4434
02:33:42,710 --> 02:33:40,000
characters some other things coming

4435
02:33:44,389 --> 02:33:42,720
six design reminding everybody thank you

4436
02:33:46,150 --> 02:33:44,399
for coming you all come back now

4437
02:33:48,230 --> 02:33:46,160
yes and if you have not oh there's all

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02:33:50,790 --> 02:33:48,240
around arbiter with a kind and generous

4439
02:33:52,070 --> 02:33:50,800
one dollar super chat donation thank you

4440
02:33:53,750 --> 02:33:52,080
all around arbiter

4441
02:33:55,349 --> 02:33:53,760
for your kindness your generosity and

4442
02:33:56,230 --> 02:33:55,359
your support of the show and continued

4443
02:33:58,230 --> 02:33:56,240
support of the show

4444
02:33:59,910 --> 02:33:58,240
it is much appreciated you too all

4445
02:34:01,270 --> 02:33:59,920
around orbit have given me an attitude

4446
02:34:03,030 --> 02:34:01,280
of gratitude

4447
02:34:05,030 --> 02:34:03,040
i can't tell you how thankful i am that

4448
02:34:08,150 --> 02:34:05,040
people want to see this thing continue

4449
02:34:10,309 --> 02:34:08,160
this crazy idea that i had for a show

4450
02:34:11,349 --> 02:34:10,319
and uh you know we're doing great right

4451
02:34:14,309 --> 02:34:11,359
now

4452
02:34:15,190 --> 02:34:14,319
not only are we broadcasting live on uh

4453
02:34:19,190 --> 02:34:15,200
facebook

4454
02:34:21,910 --> 02:34:19,200
youtube and twitch uh we are also

4455
02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:21,920
uh shooting our podcast out as soon as

4456
02:34:27,270 --> 02:34:22,560
the

4457
02:34:29,429 --> 02:34:27,280
goes out to some 14 different

4458
02:34:31,670 --> 02:34:29,439
audio podcast networks so we are

4459
02:34:34,070 --> 02:34:31,680
literally everywhere now

4460
02:34:35,750 --> 02:34:34,080
uh somebody sent me uh this graphic i'm

4461
02:34:36,070 --> 02:34:35,760
going to share it but not today because

4462
02:34:39,030 --> 02:34:36,080
like

4463
02:34:39,990 --> 02:34:39,040
i don't remember exactly where it is i i

4464
02:34:42,710 --> 02:34:40,000
saved it

4465
02:34:43,990 --> 02:34:42,720
but it has our truth seeker show logo

4466
02:34:47,030 --> 02:34:44,000
and it's probably bad

4467
02:34:50,870 --> 02:34:47,040
timing for this for this slogan

4468
02:34:53,349 --> 02:34:50,880
but they put spreading like a virus

4469
02:34:54,550 --> 02:34:53,359
it's not good timing for that slogan but

4470
02:34:57,510 --> 02:34:54,560
it's true we're now

4471
02:34:59,030 --> 02:34:57,520
on uh these three platforms live and 14

4472
02:35:01,590 --> 02:34:59,040
different audio

4473
02:35:02,630 --> 02:35:01,600
uh podcast distribution networks which

4474
02:35:04,630 --> 02:35:02,640
by the way

4475
02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:04,640
you know uh somebody mentioned to me

4476
02:35:06,550 --> 02:35:06,160
that there's commercials in them but

4477
02:35:09,349 --> 02:35:06,560
there's

4478
02:35:09,670 --> 02:35:09,359
i listened to an entire podcast a two

4479
02:35:12,150 --> 02:35:09,680
plus

4480
02:35:13,670 --> 02:35:12,160
hour podcast there wasn't that many

4481
02:35:15,590 --> 02:35:13,680
commercials much less than

4482
02:35:18,070 --> 02:35:15,600
other people's you know and i really

4483
02:35:20,389 --> 02:35:18,080
can't i have very little control

4484
02:35:21,270 --> 02:35:20,399
also if you don't like an advertiser i

4485
02:35:23,349 --> 02:35:21,280
apologize

4486
02:35:24,630 --> 02:35:23,359
i have no control over that there is an

4487
02:35:28,150 --> 02:35:24,640
on and an

4488
02:35:32,070 --> 02:35:28,160
off i cannot exclude

4489
02:35:34,870 --> 02:35:32,080
uh different advertisers although

4490
02:35:37,990 --> 02:35:34,880
i can somewhat in youtube but we don't

4491
02:35:40,710 --> 02:35:38,000
do the ads in youtube there is simply

4492
02:35:42,550 --> 02:35:40,720
uh you know i i don't think there's

4493
02:35:44,389 --> 02:35:42,560
enough money in the youtube ads at our

4494
02:35:46,389 --> 02:35:44,399
level of viewership so i've decided to

4495
02:35:48,389 --> 02:35:46,399
keep the youtube ads off for now

4496
02:35:50,150 --> 02:35:48,399
but i am working on a subscription a

4497
02:35:52,309 --> 02:35:50,160
youtube subscription you could be

4498
02:35:53,750 --> 02:35:52,319
a or not subscription membership so you

4499
02:35:55,910 --> 02:35:53,760
could be a youtube

4500
02:35:58,790 --> 02:35:55,920
truth seekers member soon but we're

4501
02:36:01,670 --> 02:35:58,800
working that out it'll be ready sort

4502
02:36:03,349 --> 02:36:01,680
shortly but you know i wouldn't have

4503
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:03,359
that done but i'm too busy working on

4504
02:36:05,990 --> 02:36:05,200
slides for genocide so everybody can

4505
02:36:12,710 --> 02:36:06,000
thank him

4506
02:36:13,190 --> 02:36:12,720
don't have time to get the memberships

4507
02:36:15,429 --> 02:36:13,200
done

4508
02:36:17,270 --> 02:36:15,439
right and i'm also working on a t-shirt

4509
02:36:19,110 --> 02:36:17,280
shop so people can buy t-shirts and

4510
02:36:21,030 --> 02:36:19,120
support the show

4511
02:36:22,230 --> 02:36:21,040
lots of great things coming a lot of

4512
02:36:24,070 --> 02:36:22,240
great guests coming up

4513
02:36:25,910 --> 02:36:24,080
we've got michael schreck coming up and

4514
02:36:28,070 --> 02:36:25,920
boy wow what a great show tonight i want

4515
02:36:31,110 --> 02:36:28,080
to thank him again for kevin moore

4516
02:36:33,510 --> 02:36:31,120
uh of the kevin moore show fame coming

4517
02:36:33,910 --> 02:36:33,520
jumping on as a surprise guest that was

4518
02:36:38,710 --> 02:36:33,920
my

4519
02:36:41,190 --> 02:36:38,720
favorite surprise guest ever right

4520
02:36:42,309 --> 02:36:41,200
so i want to thank each and every one of

4521
02:36:44,469 --> 02:36:42,319
you for coming here

4522
02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:44,479
i want to remind everybody once again if

4523
02:36:48,790 --> 02:36:46,240
you're in audio podcast land

4524
02:36:49,510 --> 02:36:48,800
please please go to the youtube go to

4525
02:36:51,590 --> 02:36:49,520
youtube

4526
02:36:52,630 --> 02:36:51,600
go to the search box search for truth

4527
02:36:54,309 --> 02:36:52,640
seekers

4528
02:36:55,990 --> 02:36:54,319
look for the guy with the sunglasses

4529
02:36:58,630 --> 02:36:56,000
that would be me stephen campbell come

4530
02:37:02,309 --> 02:36:58,640
here subscribe hit the notification bell

4531
02:37:04,469 --> 02:37:02,319
and also just to uh remind everybody

4532
02:37:06,389 --> 02:37:04,479
you please do if you're watching on

4533
02:37:07,990 --> 02:37:06,399
youtube right now or you're watching a

4534
02:37:10,630 --> 02:37:08,000
replay please do like

4535
02:37:11,750 --> 02:37:10,640
comment and share these videos it really

4536
02:37:13,590 --> 02:37:11,760
does help

4537
02:37:15,510 --> 02:37:13,600
every bit of interaction if you just

4538
02:37:18,389 --> 02:37:15,520
post nice show

4539
02:37:19,270 --> 02:37:18,399
as a reply to the video raises us in the

4540
02:37:21,990 --> 02:37:19,280
search engines

4541
02:37:22,870 --> 02:37:22,000
and helps more people find our show and

4542
02:37:26,710 --> 02:37:22,880
certainly

4543
02:37:28,550 --> 02:37:26,720
uh that is is beneficial to our show

4544
02:37:30,230 --> 02:37:28,560
if you're feeling generous there are

4545
02:37:32,550 --> 02:37:30,240
links in the about section

4546
02:37:34,710 --> 02:37:32,560
or in the description of this video for

4547
02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:34,720
how you can support us on patreon

4548
02:37:38,950 --> 02:37:37,520
uh or paypal i want to thank each and

4549
02:37:40,230 --> 02:37:38,960
every one of you for joining us i'm

4550
02:37:41,670 --> 02:37:40,240
always happy friends

4551
02:37:43,510 --> 02:37:41,680
always happy when there's an audience

4552
02:37:44,790 --> 02:37:43,520
and i gotta tell you i think tonight we

4553
02:37:46,870 --> 02:37:44,800
had our best numbers

4554
02:37:48,070 --> 02:37:46,880
ever we had 70 something people in the

4555
02:37:51,349 --> 02:37:48,080
live chat

4556
02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:51,359
uh best numbers and that's probably due

4557
02:37:55,270 --> 02:37:52,399
to the kevin moore

4558
02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:55,280
uh bump so see look karma i did this

4559
02:37:59,110 --> 02:37:57,280
show tonight to try to get terry joyce a

4560
02:38:00,550 --> 02:37:59,120
bump and meanwhile here comes kevin

4561
02:38:03,349 --> 02:38:00,560
moore on my show to give me

4562
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:03,359
a bump up in numbers tonight it's it's

4563
02:38:06,309 --> 02:38:05,520
nice i feel good karmically about

4564
02:38:08,389 --> 02:38:06,319
tonight

4565
02:38:10,150 --> 02:38:08,399
uh it was a really good idea to try to

4566
02:38:11,670 --> 02:38:10,160
help terry joyce out and i can't thank

4567
02:38:12,630 --> 02:38:11,680
kevin moore enough for coming here and

4568
02:38:13,830 --> 02:38:12,640
helping us out

4569
02:38:15,990 --> 02:38:13,840
because people are going to want to hear

4570
02:38:19,030 --> 02:38:16,000
what he had to say uh

4571
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:19,040
about the documentary and this story

4572
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:20,800
so friends like i said i'm always happy

4573
02:38:24,150 --> 02:38:22,640
when there's an audience we had a great

4574
02:38:25,750 --> 02:38:24,160
one tonight i'm so

4575
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:25,760
happy and thankful that you could be a

4576
02:38:29,349 --> 02:38:27,280
part of mine

4577
02:38:30,469 --> 02:38:29,359
until next time friends my name is

4578
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:30,479
steven cambion

4579
02:38:34,790 --> 02:38:32,800
good night and god bless all of you and

4580
02:38:36,870 --> 02:38:34,800
we will be back tomorrow night at 9 00

4581
02:38:53,140 --> 02:38:36,880
pm eastern standard time

4582
02:40:11,450 --> 02:39:32,250
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